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Date:      Sat, 19 May 2001 11:30:00 -0700
From:      Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>
To:        "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Hardware Problem
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At 11:59 -0500 5/19/01, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote:
>At 10:33 AM 5/18/01 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately not possible for another 6 months.  I get a lot of 
>>dissatisfied customers if I reboot.  I try to keep it to once a 
>>year when I upgrade the OS.
>
>You upgraded from ??? to 4.3R?

3.5-Stable

>
>
>>Custom, but only a couple of buffer size parameters have been 
>>changed and had to add the old ISA parameters to ep to get the 3Com 
>>NIC to work.
>
>My fix was to toss 'em or give them away.  ;)

Non-profit org with no money...

>
>
>>No IDE at the moment.  I will try that next year.
>
>Or just remove the bit that aren't needed from the kernel.
>
>Usually I leave one IDE drive set to "auto" in the BIOS to slow the 
>POST.  Allows a little extra time to jump into the BIOS config at 
>least for some boards that come up too fast.
>
>>>Do you have 3 network cards?
>>
>>No just 2.  I don't understand why the second one is ep1.
>>
>>>
>>>As is dc0 and ep1 are trying to use the same IRQ.  It would help 
>>>if you listed the hardware.
>>
>>Don't have a specific list.  There are 2 SCSI disks 8 and 4 GB.  1 
>>Adaptec SCSI controller,  1 Netgear 10/100 NIC, 1 3Com 10 NIC.  1 
>>SCSI CDROM.  The duplicate IRQs are fascinating.  The dc0 was not 
>>on 5 for the next to last boot when I switched the 3Com ep 
>>definition to specify the ISA parameters.  However, this delay 
>>problem has existed for at least 3 years.  We don't boot the 
>>machine but about once a year for OS upgrades so its not a 
>>significant issue, but I don't want to have bad hardware bring me 
>>down at an inconvenient time.  These machines are all remote and 
>>unattended.
>
>Guess it would be nice to have a 4th for upgrades and they were the 
>same.  However, if only booting is slow and nothing else is wrong 
>then solving this would be a low priority.  You say this has 
>happened for 3 years, what was the last release that didn't pause?

It was doing that when I first got involved.  That was on 2.2.8 or 
2.2.5.  We had both and I don't remember which one this specific 
machine has.  Yes I have an upgrade machine and it does not do this. 
None of the others do.  I believe I have 6 others at various 
locations now.  Only the one has the problem.  Thats why I believe I 
have some flakey hardware thats going to go really bad in the future. 
Then it will be easy to diagnose, but I was hoping to figure out 
early on what it is so I can get a replacement and schedule it rather 
than wait for the failure.

>
>
>Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net
>Systems/Network Administrator
>FreeBSD - the power to serve

-- 
-- Doug

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