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[46.114.25.242]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r18-20020a17090609d200b0072af37a7220sm3329327eje.192.2022.07.07.13.11.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jul 2022 13:11:54 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.100.31\)) Subject: Re: Accessibility in the FreeBSD installer and console Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 22:11:52 +0200 References: To: Hans Petter Selasky , freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <45ACA785-05BF-496B-8D0A-AD2A4A2293D1@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.100.31) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Lf6y44Ntvz43t1 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=googlemail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=ngqzEpIZ; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=googlemail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of maciphone2@googlemail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::52e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=maciphone2@googlemail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.48 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.980]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20210112]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::52e:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > Am 07.07.2022 um 19:32 schrieb Hans Petter Selasky : >=20 > Hi, >=20 > The only argument I've heard from some non-sighted friends about not = using FreeBSD natively is that ooh, MacOSX is so cool. It starts = speaking from the start if I press this and this key. Is anyone here = working on or wanting such a feature? Possibly they didn=E2=80=99t want to be rude and your friends didn't = tell you the other argument :-) : according to the corresponding wiki = page FreeBSD doesn't natively support any audio output at all on your = friends current M1 Mac hardware. since quite nothing is currently supported you probably will first take = over working on the Audio driver =E2=80=A6..and of course USB :-) > I mean it should be so much easier to text to speech our text based = unicode console, than what MacOSX is doing, by tracking screen changes = intelligently inside newcons in the kernel, and feeding that into a = character device, that to espeak or whatever can read it. nowadays called MacOS ( w/o the X)=E2=80=A6 as far as I remember even = System7 Mac of 1984 had text to speech features =20 so it might be hard to convince a Mac users with such a brand new voice = over killer app in native FreeBSD ;-)- but I would ask your friends who can judge that. >=20 > --HPS >=20 K.=