From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 12 16:53:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A3A1065709; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmh.aybabtu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712BB8FC19; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so3733537iae.13 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:53:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WWfzBG+s7/VAaPy+nmqe7k+lE/feC9vGyUQMJj/hyNM=; b=SKGq3MLSHOl8yymZJ26pJ1IBgEYamSu5tXpXGF8inp1uNmynRE72M9BCxVqbdWT3Qb vzbhTMK6INDRRs7P2VU3jVX5YpVXej9LLnYAdxvh8DcnYNq++SxcsLQZNmgKh9pI4Vda v2wK8RfwAOZiSO/4m8CJY5p0555sLx8M+0Rc4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.178.65 with SMTP id cw1mr22590485igc.16.1329065626228; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:53:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: rmh.aybabtu@gmail.com Received: by 10.43.130.201 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:53:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201202061248.43744.jkim@FreeBSD.org> References: <201202040054.q140siBP012241@svn.freebsd.org> <201202061248.43744.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:53:46 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oBvmsk93oX1zCgKMZsXayd8Ayps Message-ID: From: Robert Millan To: Jung-uk Kim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , Kostik Belousov , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , src-committers@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: svn commit: r230972 - in head: share/mk sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/modules sys/modules/drm sys/modules/sound/driver sys/modules/usb tools/build/options X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:53:47 -0000 El 6 de febrer de 2012 17:48, Jung-uk Kim ha escrit: > On Friday 03 February 2012 07:54 pm, Robert Millan wrote: >> +nodevice =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ti > > Tigon 1 and 2 had open-sourced firmware. =C2=A0In fact, I believe wpaul > developed custom firmware for FreeBSD and the (early?) sources are > still available here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Alteon/ Well, there's always source somewhere. I just noticed that some of my original intent of this MK knob was blurred when renaming to "MK_SOURCELESS". The part that is relevant to me (I don't know about others, just talking for myself here!) is whether a driver is completely built from source or if a chunk of binary bytes (either uuencode'd or as a C array) is used instead. But of course if source is available we could avoid this debate by just integrating it into the tree :-). Is this something that would be desireable in FreeBSD? I notice there's something similar already (sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm). Btw, which would be the appropiate list to discuss this? freebsd-arch?