From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 14:37:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6C216A41F for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:37:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BDC243D46 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77425 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jan 2006 14:37:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Pv5Z1eh5MW2dMgvgagBieK2eodtT8FRFXG+fRuo9z6Eck3PFQbFIE2dJdtzMzeuB65d3DFUmPw6fsmLtY6eui08D4RhyxQeLrJOvyiPVMPDX3hxjdhfvfM12xJ7VpAsciHgrvuYX2V4RLIQQ6v6jgPMAHN691xiiktOwQeomkHM= ; Message-ID: <20060108143751.77423.qmail@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 06:37:51 PST Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 06:37:51 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Robert Slade , Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <1136705674.23844.15.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Michael Bernstein , jasonharback , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Sparc vs i386 architecture X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:37:53 -0000 --- Robert Slade wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 04:51, Ted Mittelstaedt > wrote: > > What machine code exploits currently exist > for FreeBSD on the i386 > > other than the F00F bug, which has already > been patched out? > > I wasn't aware of any. > > > > Ted > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Behalf Of Michael > > >Bernstein > > >Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:53 PM > > >To: Robert Slade; jasonharback > > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >Subject: Sparc vs i386 architecture > > > > > > > > >Hi group, I was just wondering if there's an > advantage to > > >running FreeBSD on > > >a SPARC than compared with a regular PC. > Obviously the architecture is > > >different (CISC vs RISC). How ever you can > purchase a higher > > >powered PC box > > >for less money than it would cost for a > SPARC. > > > > > >The main advantage I'm seeing here is for > security. It's going > > >to be harder > > >to break into a SPARC running FreeBSD than > an Intel/Amd running > > >FreeBSD b/c > > >most machine code exploits will be for the > i386 type architecture. > > > > > >Any insights are much appreciated. > > > > > >Michael > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Robert Slade" > > >To: "jasonharback" > > > >Cc: > > >Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:43 AM > > >Subject: Re: Sparc dual boot problems > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 03:47, jasonharback > wrote: > > >> > Here's the situation > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The machine is a SUN ULTRA 5 and I have > 4 IDE devices. I am > > >new to SUN > > >hardware I know much more about PC's. The > first device primary > > >master is > > >the cdrom which Solaris 10 and FreeBSD were > successfully installed from. > > >Currently Solaris 10 which is the primary > slave is the default > > >boot device. > > >FreeBSD is installed on the primary slave > drive. I am used to > > >the FreeBSD > > >install on a PC and during that install it > gave time for configuring the > > >boot loader but I can't find it on the > recent Sparc FreeBSD > > >edition? During > > >the partition process it says I will have > the option to > > >configure the boot > > >loader latter. Right now I can't boot > FreeBSD and I have no idea how to > > >configure this machine to make it dual boot? > I would like to > > >have Solaris > > >10 as the primary O/S, FreeBSD as the > secondary and Sparc Linux > > >on the third > > >hd. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Can you please help? > > >> > > > >> > Jason Harback > > >> > > >> Jason, > > >> > > >> You don't need to use a boot loader with > the U5, just boot to > > >the promt > > >> (Stop A). Then just type boot followed by > the alias of the slice you > > >> want to boot. > > >> > > >> Rob > > >> > > Ted, > > Good point. However, in my case I'm using the > sparc (its a U10) because > it there. I originally got it as I needed to > find out about > Solaris/Sparc. It was lying in the back of a > cupboard so when I started > to investigate replacements for a domain based > on W2k using FBSD I > dusted it off and I'm using it for the BDC. The > only thing I really > noticed is the disk(s) are slow compared (SUN's > IDE) to the PDC which > has a fast scsi setup. Given the choice I think > I would still go for a > good sparc from Ebay over a i386. > > Rob Frankly, people who spend $9000. worth of time dicking around with some old piece of junk to avoid buying a $400. computer crack me up. :) __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com