From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Nov 15 13:04:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221E5A27C06 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f176.google.com (mail-lb0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AAC0108C for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: by lbbcs9 with SMTP id cs9so75065821lbb.1 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 05:04:35 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=puw2KXLCieNcJggY90Ya8fZPZ02xb+U0Njmf2uZJmc4=; b=NYPZFZaIHnOtKBlTVQ3X36qwwT0rFIxLd9BRylA9AIl5dHz8RIHGJO+s00ea+Ym7t+ AIYroCIfl27M28YaypFPVkKVgJumQN2ze2N6o/ak01Q1S0IyLQHBypmhUfsBR76Q5jxs gr9BQN0WAMIXNC2SJ57UbYGaS2Mz3UyFbIEgZrUNHf7DBNiQwY4dqq8TMjJ2QZ6+RjIw 70rZxNho7/f7AJi9ejrlrX0i/5ykBZJNvgSyjTNNBaS6Zn/zm8705jtBD3vUp1VwlQfj Qt69QOU0wqQ64uXIK8SzY6B0EcrK7tvX9p8sj38efMGVjX5chr+X+kWm0hd0P/vtYkUB ztDA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlOIivxz3/WB1L4goUl4if0dGonKCXG6ryzTOnz6wiTdUiM8WCS0szgG6ZBbvkoYabQYZhS X-Received: by 10.112.151.7 with SMTP id um7mr14969442lbb.16.1447592675027; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 05:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([89.169.173.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g193sm4753889lfb.6.2015.11.15.05.04.33 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Nov 2015 05:04:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests To: Baptiste Daroussin References: <69242BD8-9010-47F0-9706-BE206376ECEA@gmail.com> <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com> <56482FA9.2010803@marino.st> <56487973.5070803@freebsd.org> <20151115124656.GB93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <564880FA.5000009@freebsd.org> <20151115130009.GC93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Cc: John Marino , NGie Cooper , Craig Rodrigues , freebsd-current Current , "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" From: Andrey Chernov Message-ID: <564882E1.5050404@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 16:04:33 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20151115130009.GC93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MIqWb4iilpE53FpgbvoFfv3eroo7aJSsT" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:04:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --MIqWb4iilpE53FpgbvoFfv3eroo7aJSsT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15.11.2015 16:00, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:56:26PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> On 15.11.2015 15:46, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:24:19PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>>> On 15.11.2015 10:09, John Marino wrote: >>>> ISO8859-1 locales are legacy even if obsoleted in modern world (I ag= ree >>>> with that). Lots of ports (even at configure stage!) have checks for= >>>> them. Since we generate locales from CLDR now, it will be no cost to= >>>> bring all 8859-1 back to not violate POLA and not fix every failing = port. >>>> >>> Exp-run have been made and no ports were failing with the removed loc= ales. >> >> There is soft-fail, configure just marks that locales are not supporte= d >> and use "C". Sorry I don't remember port names where I saw it right no= w >> and don't have a time to search for them right now too. Soft-fails (li= ke >> in tcl with nl_langinfo) are almost impossible to detect excepting >> specific situation happens or source code inspection. Do we ever need >> them when there is no harm to keep 8859-1 locales? >=20 > Is it ok if I readd those locales as aliases on 8859-15? It is hacking solution leads to wrong collating order and character classes. It is better to generate true 8859-1 just in the same way you already do for 8859-15. BTW, I can't check right now, but in case 8859-5 is removed too, it is better to restore it, it was used in Suns as their standard Russian encoding. --=20 http://ache.vniz.net/ --MIqWb4iilpE53FpgbvoFfv3eroo7aJSsT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWSILhAAoJEKUckv0MjfbKEfMIAIW+80MDARSu4Sx8eL1Sn9Et PW351DbHU+hAILHkOZ9yCQa1OKRh981JmUNCi5ocyphuBf303BOgUfHyB5L1h2rf hQWFe78s+tPu1s1P3VlrVxZ5miakhTdPpyVfZDIqa3HO2jw94hxFAW96+JTINm+a +aWVlIRQk3+Q2qqGaIVTxloEeFRmRZPnNYWCFrXynftK8IIK3reUc53IzZ1AoJBP ZoodS1hQ6dsACRjwItoX8M5vY096vJ58QiZ4G+LyupoTBvJQY23S0CyEhRtNnMPb JldOMfofHRkoYrIgDwdgagBpl/P9+A41JynDnWm1QdC0/PkjBrgTaS5pqNX4IAs= =Bnpx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MIqWb4iilpE53FpgbvoFfv3eroo7aJSsT--