From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 00:53:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DAD106564A; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CCD8FC12; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so3979370wwb.31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:53:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Q9MSxhvLrPxNGQ90+tDZclCAn+Mwfxb7mi6LJod8xlM=; b=Bsd6I7S9dMK/PDjsmjIVi+XgKFMRRHKUyFOe3ktXxi5VrffMxY8xUS9dhz0lQQix6N heVxklHDuxOvvqWDGFb8Q1GBzivlouiCrqMjDuXhA8dNpyUgmVamKEQWADrqDnRsv9D1 R/FpG9FI3Av3uy0yW8xPIzJxNn5YwIA2v/m7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=niDAu8UxHq7mF9PjlG1tZZ15f3WuEjxPBUMaD6NxczivHwN+N5tOdXWmg4Ix2hXJi2 0ZQlnN73YZSULZzPEmsl6mmBtrQFaox01bo81GfzimSJanHJ4YzjicsAlFm2Ha7/6Nhv xqHnq51Q0aIuCHjjXTMNNWKpMZotcMBM2TAlY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.11.129 with SMTP id 1mr1029273wex.90.1288054416796; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: yanegomi@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.10.198 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:53:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CC5F35A.7090809@FreeBSD.org> References: <4CC5D83E.8030505@delphij.net> <4CC5D9DB.1020409@FreeBSD.org> <4CC5F35A.7090809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:53:36 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HQ9oYu2ak8v_HVD4n_CrhAxlA9k Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Doug Barton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] More meaningful information about ENOEXEC for kldload(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:53:38 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 10/25/2010 13:33, Ivan Voras wrote: >> >> (except if the message is changed to say "please look at the kernel >> syslog messages to find out the real reason for this failure") > > Thinking about Garrett's response as well, this may be the best way to go. Well.. I'm not saying the current output is the best, but I just don't want to dig a deeper hole that will further confuse people, as some users may get even more confused with additional details. > At this point I'm also not concerned about waiting for an ideal solution. > IMO an incremental change here would be most welcome. Wouldn't noting this in the manpage be sufficient? I ran into this `item' (:)..) today after a power outage because nvidia-driver was built against different kernel headers, and it prints out the error clear as day on /dev/console, so I'm tempted to say that documenting the behavior is enough as long as it's clear that that is in fact the behavior that the user is dealing with :). Thanks! -Garrett