From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 26 01:26:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24870 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24859 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA02699; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:55:46 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA14999; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:55:44 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980826175544.H14420@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:55:44 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Brett Glass , Gregory Sutter , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remark from Nick Petreley References: <199808230107.TAA27100@lariat.lariat.org> <199808222241.QAA26221@lariat.lariat.org> <199808221921.NAA24991@lariat.lariat.org> <199808221921.NAA24991@lariat.lariat.org> <19980822135700.J924@notabene.zer0.org> <199808222241.QAA26221@lariat.lariat.org> <19980822162831.N924@notabene.zer0.org> <199808230107.TAA27100@lariat.lariat.org> <19980823041842.A924@notabene.zer0.org> <199808231441.IAA01078@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199808231441.IAA01078@lariat.lariat.org>; from Brett Glass on Sun, Aug 23, 1998 at 08:41:06AM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 23 August 1998 at 8:41:06 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > At 04:18 AM 8/23/98 -0700, Gregory Sutter wrote: > >>> You're quoting my remarks out of context. You should print the absurd and >>> outrageous remarks to which I was responding. >> >> To which you responded with the quoted absurd and outrageous remarks, >> which makes you no less a zealot than the more radical defenders of GNU. > > Again, not in context. In many cases, I'm parodying their style and their > rashness for humorous effect. I don't like to make disagreements public, but in this case I think I must. Brett, I tend to agree with Nicholas and Greg. Your messages *do* portray the impression that you're a GNU or Linux basher, and I haven't seen any humour in your messages. If that was the intention, you obviously failed. On the whole (and after reviewing mail exchanges with you over the last 6 months), I get the impression that your messages on the Net are harming FreeBSD more than they are helping. >> Not everyone automagically believes GPL == death. > > Agreed. However, GPLing code does represent the death of opportunities for > entrepreneurship, and of a race between commercial and non-commercial > products. > I do find this sad. Over the course of the years, I have made a lot of money out of GPL software. Like Greg Sutter, I have also released software under the GPL, but that doesn't mean I will always do so. If you can't find a way to make money out of the GPL (and assuming you want to), then maybe that's the question you should be looking at. >> Like I said, there's room for both out there, and your actions are trying >> to limit people's options just as the GPL-only camp's are. And after >> all, isn't "freedom to choose, freedom to use" what Open Source is all >> about? > > I don't think that the GPL allows "freedom to use." It only allows "freedom > to be a user." Big difference. I don't see one, but quite honestly, I don't care, either. In summary: if you want to help FreeBSD, consider how other people see you. I'm not asking you to change your opinions, just to keep quiet at the right times :-) Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message