From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 06:01:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C05616A4B3 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D144B43FE0 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@grillet.co.uk) Received: from grillet.demon.co.uk ([62.49.60.165] helo=orlando.grillet.home) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1A3bBF-0002yr-0Z for gnome@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:01:41 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Andrew Grillet Organization: Grillet Family To: gnome@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:01:36 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200309281401.36103.andrew@grillet.co.uk> Subject: Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: andrew@grillet.co.uk List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:01:44 -0000 Hi I have done a CVSup to fetch ports and stable over a fresh install of FreeBSD 4.8. When building Gnome (2.4.0) I had problems with gstreamer requiring an old version of gnomeui. 2.00 instead of 2.4. I patched the makefile for gstreamer and gstreamer-plugins, to version 2.4.0 and it now gnome compiles OK (subject to having enough disk space :-) BUT what I want to know is WHY IN GODS NAME DO I HAVE TO SPEND TWO DAYS COMPILING AUDIO STUFF FOR A MACHINE WITH NO SOUND HARDWARE? Surely the default should be that there is no sound support - who needs sound in a business environment? Or do people think it deters their employees surfing porn sites? I think there is a more general problem here: Surely Gnome should not be dependent on things like mozilla - it should integrate them if they are present, but if they aren't. it should not fetch them and compile them - many of us use different applications, or have no need of an equivalent application on machines used for a specific purpose. It is annoying to find the Gui hauls in every application known to the developers. (If its any consellation - I have had the same moan at the KDE team several times :-) regards Andrew regards Andrew