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Date:      Mon, 27 Mar 2000 02:53:49 -0800 (PST)
From:      =?iso-8859-1?q?Tommy=20Hallgren?= <thallgren@yahoo.com>
To:        Bart van Leeuwen <bart@ixori.demon.nl>, Dave Boers <djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-smp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: SMP and vn
Message-ID:  <20000327105349.4502.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com>

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I've read about Abit BP6 problems(SMP+Idle==hang) on Linux-kern, but thought it
was a Linux-related problem. :-/

Mvh: Tommy 'd-bug' Hallgren

--- Bart van Leeuwen <bart@ixori.demon.nl> skrev:
> just to let you know that I 'reproduced' this without vn in my
> kernel.. tho it happens less often it seems. 
> 
> Bart van Leeuwen
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>  mailto:bart@ixori.demon.nl  -  http://www.ixori.demon.nl/
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, Dave Boers wrote:
> 
> > It is rumoured that Bart van Leeuwen had the courage to say:
> > > In any case, it looks to me that SMP + vnode + heavy load == freeze.
> > 
> > For me: SMP + sit_and_wait_for_5_days_or_so == freeze. 
> > 
> > > Is there anyone with simular experience? is there anything documented
> > > about using vn on smp systems?
> > 
> > I've got the same symptoms. I don't have the vn device in my kernel though
> > and I can't seem to trigger the hang with a heavy load. I am running Abit
> > BP6 with two 400 Mhz Celerons (not overclocked) and 128 Mb of RAM. 
> > 
> > I haven't been able to get an uptime > 10 days since Christmas or so. I
> > used to track 4.0-current, but now I'm running RELENG_4; with the same
> > problems still. 
> > 
> > The hangs are _complete_. There's no getting into the debugger, the system
> > won't respond to console/serial terminal/network/whatever. 
> > 
> > I tried to duplicate the situation by configuring a single processor
> > Pentium II machine with _very_ similar hardware and the exact same kernel
> > configuration (it has 384 Mb ram though). That one has now been running for
> > 16 days without a problem, so it definitely seems SMP related. 
> > 
> > I turned off softupdates on all my filesystems, but it doesn't seem related
> > to the hangs.
> > 
> > Right now I am running with a reduced kernel. I deleted the pcm and ata
> > drivers (system is now running off scsi only - Tekram 390U2W) and I also
> > alltogether removed softupdates from the kernel as well as anything else
> > that wasn't absolutely necessary. 
> > 
> > In about 5-10 days I'll know wether this has helped. 
> > 
> > If anyone has any further insights into this huge problem, I'd love to hear
> > about it! 
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> >     Dave. 
> > 
> > -- 
> >   Dave Boers             < djb @ relativity . student . utwente . nl >
> >   Physics graduate student && unix/BSD sysadmin - University of Twente
> >   Public key:  ftp://relativity.student.utwente.nl/pub/pgpkeys/djb.asc  
> > 
> > 
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