From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 12 22:06:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05516 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:06:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05494 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07529; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 23:06:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804130506.XAA07529@lariat.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 23:06:06 -0600 To: dwilde1@ibm.net From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD - the user's piece of the action. Cc: Frank Pawlak , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <35319B1F.9D61370F@ibm.net> References: <199804130217.VAA02346@darkstar.connect.com> <199804130446.WAA07296@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:57 PM 4/12/98 -0700, Don Wilde wrote: >I beg to differ, Brett. The definition of 501c3 is very broad. Witness >the political hacks Gingrich did with 501c3. You can 'educate' people >about anything in almost any way. You can even make (limited) amounts of >money commercially from it, as long as the money -- except for salaries >and those needn't be tiny -- goes back into the educational purpose. Not so -- especially not nowadays. The IRS is narrowing the definition and the courts are supporting it. For example, quite a few computer users' groups and community networks whose purpose is to teach people about the Internet have lost their 501(c)(3) status. The Gingrich Follies may be partially to blame. I experienced this first-hand; an educational organization I founded was initially given the go-ahead for 501(c)(3) and then booted out. We pretty much had our choice between 501(c)(4) and 501(c)(12). We took the latter because it had fewer restrictions on activity. >There was a really good book written by Nolo Bene Press up in >the bay area about Non Profits. That's Nolo Press, and they have two books on non-profits. Unfortunately, as we found out, they were overly optimistic about one's chances of getting a positive determination. >After all, we're not running drugs here >and that's the only thing the Feds care about any more. Not so at all. The IRS now cares about restricting organizations' tax exemptions -- a lot. They're re-examining organizations that have had 501(c)(3)'s for decades. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message