From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 9 16:52:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAA516A418 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu (smtpclu-7.eunet.yu [194.247.192.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9158613C457 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-211-191.eunet.yu [213.198.211.191]) by smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l79FlRsf004474; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 17:47:28 +0200 Message-Id: <200708091547.l79FlRsf004474@smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:47:41 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: mark@msen.com In-Reply-To: <200708091022.52692.mark@msen.com> References: <46BA9682.7020203@ix.netcom.com> <200708091022.52692.mark@msen.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.0 Cc: Latitude , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Convince me, please! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:52:44 -0000 On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:22:51 -0400 Mark Moellering wrote: > Windows does an excellent job of running on almost any hardware. > (how well it runs is up for debate) > FreeBSD is also pretty good at running on just about any hardware, > however, you may need to do some file manipulation to get your video > display soundcard or some other peripherals to work. I deeply disagree here. Any comparison between FreeBSD and window$ in that field is bogus. What an "excellent job" is windows$ doing? Virtually all hardware is designed having them in mind but in some cases ignoring users of open source systems. Moreover, m$ obviously has a policy of convincing people that hardware exists only to be a platform for window$ and many users really think so. If you buy the simplest piece of hardware such as keyboard, it will come with "Running/Works with Windows Vista" inscription. This is a deception: it hides the fact that there is nothing special with the simple keyboard. What does this stupid message mean? Nothing, but it reveals a flawed and very harmful approach (for example that your laptop is "Designed for Windows XP"). So where is there an excellent job? > Depending on what hardware you are running, FreeBSd may load and have > you up and running with a windows like desktop with a minimum of > fuss. If you need to edit and recompile your kernel or hand edit > your X windows configuration file , it will become a nightmare. =20 Could you please expand on this? There is no connection between "nightmare" and things where everything is clear and open. Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87