From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 15 13:37:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D2F1065672; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DFA8FC1D; Fri, 15 May 2009 13:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7AFC46BA4; Fri, 15 May 2009 09:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:37:09 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Adrian Chadd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="621616949-942717959-1242394629=:23847" Cc: freebsd-current Subject: Re: -current snapshots and xen kernels X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:37:10 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --621616949-942717959-1242394629=:23847 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 15 May 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote: > 2009/5/15 Robert Watson : > >> This was discussed at the devsummit also, and struck many people as a good >> idea.  The usual tension, however, is over the amount of free space on the >> ISO.  It might be time to drop the UP kernel from our install CD and >> replace it with a Xen kernel, and add an install-time option to select the >> kernel? > > Well initially I don't know how you'd use the domU kernel inside an actual > domain so I don't see why you'd throw it in sysinstall just for now. > > Just leave it on the snapshot CD so people like me can manually create basic > VM images (which is easy under FreeBSD - install kernel and base tardist in > a new filesystem using "install.sh"; boot it) and it should lower the > barrier for bootstrapping a DomU VM. The goal would be to make it trivial to install FreeBSD Xen domU boxes by providing an active selection in the installer for such a kernel, entirely avoiding the ned for people to know anything about the installation process. Perhaps not as obtrusive as "Are you installing a Xen domU domain" but an easy way to get to it (or just an alternative first ISO that does the Xen kernel by default). Our kernel configuration chapters in the handbook also need updating to reflect this... Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge --621616949-942717959-1242394629=:23847--