From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Apr 29 02:42:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09570 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09477 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 02:41:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from papillon.lemis.com ([192.122.138.250]) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA20024; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:11:18 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (grog@localhost) by papillon.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id OAA00672; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:52:44 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <19980429145242.02565@papillon.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:52:42 +0800 From: Greg Lehey To: dwilde1@ibm.net, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Demo CDs (was: blessing) References: <17537.893491629@time.cdrom.com> <3541F04D.474FE994@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3541F04D.474FE994@ibm.net>; from Don Wilde on Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 07:16:45AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 25 April 1998 at 7:16:45 -0700, Don Wilde wrote: > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> >> [Sorry for delay] >> >> > Okay, the first thing I'd like to do is to return this discussion to >> > -advocacy. I need enthusiastic people and they need leadership. >> >> Agreed. Listen to General Wilde, folks. :-) > > Second, the easy-demo-version disk is a real winner, especially a > you-*can't*-break-anything version that runs completely off the CD > and DRAM. _Please_ keep working on these, because I'm gonna be way > too busy to do more than kibitz.(Greg and Eivind?). Is this me you're talking about? I thought my role was to stand in the wings and encourage people. OK, so what do we need? My thought is for two or three preinstalled versions: 1. A CD-ROM-based version which will boot from CD-ROM, Microsoft or floppy, create an MFS file system for things that really need to write to "disk", and other than that run from CD-ROM. Create the / file system on the mfs and symlinks to just about everything except /tmp, /var/tmp and /home to the CD-ROM. With any luck, we should be able to get away with 4 MB MFS. 2. PicoBSD for those who want it. Copy to floppy and execute. 3. In the background, for those who are hooked, the regular installable version of FreeBSD. Versions (1) and (2) would effectively be canned versions which couldn't easily be modified. Run with "standard" peripherals, including Enternet and SVGA to 1024x768, but with a base resolution of 640x480 so that X will come up on just about any currently available board. Include a functional fvwm95 window mangler so that what comes up looks pretty much like what Microsoft users are used to (can somebody come up with a daemon logo to fit where Microsoft puts its windows logo?). Also a PPP configuration that could easily be modified to suit just about anything that the standard Windows 95% can do. This thing needs more flesh. Any ideas? What problems do you see? About the biggest one I see so far is how to find the mouse. It would be nice to modify startx to check for the mouse if no valid pointer section is found in the XF86Config file ("no mouse found: please move your mouse around until I say \"stop\""). Anybody know how to recognize a mouse? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message