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Date:      Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:01:45 +0100
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?
Message-ID:  <20140125190145.GE67763@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
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On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:41:51AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> On 1/25/14 10:30 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:25:07AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> >> On 1/25/14 9:48 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> >>>> To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does the ports system have a 1 or 2 click interface for merging PRs like
> >>>> for instance github?
> >>>>
> >>>> Could ports take PRs in the form of pull requests on github?
> >>>>
> >>>> Wouldn't that just turn the number of updates into a few minor clicks?
> >>>>
> >>>> (also wouldn't it make it easier for ports submitters)?
> >>>>
> >>>> (maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes
> >>>> this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.)
> >>> That would imho be a total disaster, as less and less people will really take
> >>> care of reviewing the actual patch (lots of commits are already directly from Pr
> >>> patches without applying some necessary diff for consistency, correctness, Q/A
> >>> and cosmetic.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >> You are not serious.
> >>
> >> You are saying that because the process would be too streamlined that
> >> quality would be impacted?
> >>
> >> That is pretty entertaining.  I've seen such positions, but only at very
> >> large and derpy companies coming from people invested in broken tooling.
> > I m saying that such tools as they are, are giving awful result, if we are ever
> > going to that can of direction, we will need to really take time to work on the
> > workflow and the tools, to make sure this is done a proper way, and no githun is
> > not doing such things a proper way, I did learn that the hardway with pkgng
> > developememt which is on github, I do not use anymorr at all their web tools to
> > do any merge.
> >>> btw we already have tons of tools available to just merge patches directly from
> >>> gnats.
> >> Are any of these tools available on the other side?
> >>
> >> Ie, for port submitters?
> > yes porttools for example, or some scripts inside Tools/scripts
> >
> > regards,
> > Bapt
> Is there a primer on using these tools?

I don t know I uses none of them, but one can write one, volunteering?

regards,
Bapt

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