From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 29 13:02:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0465716A468 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEEA13C45E for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.netplex.net (8.14.1/8.14.1/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id l6TD2bke023929; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:02:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by DRAC access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net To: Racaille <0xef967c36@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2403547191a53badf6d97fba439ce184.e5f9055e@am> Message-ID: References: <86vec4dxcy.fsf@ds4.des.no> <866443h8fk.fsf@ds4.des.no> <2403547191a53badf6d97fba439ce184.e5f9055e@am> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-959030623-1185714157=:25963" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TERM={xterm-r5,xterm-r6} behaving badly with man(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Eischen List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:02:39 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-959030623-1185714157=:25963 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=unknown-8bit; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Racaille wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:21:19AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: >> Daniel Eischen writes: >>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: >>>> This is the *correct* behaviour. The termcap entry is supposed to >>>> reflect the capabilities of the terminal, not your personal preference= s. >>>> If you don't like it, you can override it using the TERMCAP environmen= t >>>> variable. >>> Well, something did change recently to get this behavior. >> >> New libncurses perhaps? The termcap file itself hasn't changed since >> late 2005. >> >>> And why do we have a termcap xterm entry that doesn't exhibit this >>> behavior? >> >> Because somebody modified it to reflect his personal preference: >> >> xterm|xterm-color|X11 terminal emulator:\ >> :ti@:te@:tc=3Dxterm-xfree86: > > that's dumb. just like those idiots on linux distributions > who patched the X server to replace the weave pattern they didn't > like with another one in their favorite color. No, it's not dumb. I seem to recall arguments a long time ago about this. I believe the majority don't want the ti/te behavior, and it is disabled by default for that reason. No version of Solaris that I have ever used has behaved that way. The only others have I seen with that behavior were Linux and HP/UX. --=20 DE ---559023410-959030623-1185714157=:25963--