From owner-freebsd-current Thu Dec 5 2:33: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7F137B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 02:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pollux.asml.nl (ns.asml.nl [195.109.200.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FCD43EC2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 02:32:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from creon.asml.nl (creon [146.106.1.223]) by pollux.asml.nl (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11134; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:32:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from titan.asml.nl (titan [146.106.1.9]) by creon.asml.nl (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB5AWQt00024; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:32:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (frobozz.asml.nl [146.106.12.76]) by titan.asml.nl (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01270; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:32:16 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003001c29c0f$1a9e0000$0200000a@sewer.org> References: <51189.1038911493@wcom.com> <003001c29c0f$1a9e0000$0200000a@sewer.org> X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:25:31 +0100 To: "Craig Reyenga" From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Any ideas at all about network problem? Cc: "Brad Knowles" , "Terry Lambert" , "Christopher J Olson" , , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:33 PM -0500 2002/12/04, Craig Reyenga wrote: > Unfortunately, I have no extra hardware available to me, so I can't > experiment with switches and whatnot. Also, wouldn't some sort > of software experimentation be more appropriate, considering that > my existing setup works _perfetcly_ in 4.7? At the very least, try hard-wiring the configuration at both ends to be 100Mbps full-duplex. There's a chance that 4.7 and 5.0 will handle auto-negotiation differently. Other than that, you should try swapping out as much hardware as you can -- the cards, the cables, etc.... If possible, you should also test with other computers (in case the problem is with one specific machine when it is running 5.0). Just because something appears to work perfectly in another OS is not an indication that there is not anything wrong with that setup. If that was the case, there would never be a need for any replacement for any Microsoft OSes, because many vendors stop trying to debug the problem when they can prove that things work just fine under Windows. > I'm not sure what to do; > should I be trying various versions of if_rl.c? Or is there something > else that I should be trying? If you really want to try swapping software, you'll have to do a binary search on each potential piece of software involved. However, since there are many potential software components that could be involved, while testing each component individually between now and then should theoretically be doable in 10 tests (as previously mentioned), the combinatorial explosion will be exceptionally nasty. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message