From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 1 00:56:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: virtualization@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4DE560D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 00:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin.mu@qq.com) Received: from smtpbgbr1.qq.com (smtpbgbr1.qq.com [54.207.19.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE6CE18DB for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 00:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin.mu@qq.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qq.com; s=s201307; t=1433120167; bh=dPjMWiudlFB5S4l8CjN/vvDvuHIMnR0M8KwMPYbC9NE=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=xSI4CC5A9WvxXxRAUFHqYGU+yV8IFTnjpOJrllN1xPMQBfEzqVkTsjnAkdDrAgg0F hIM8E1YABPr/ThGfhGdpYSLRiwszILKEsW6Td+7t6KscKiSDuA3S4JP3PnxnICDPug 7Qha50AYeQhm03cCt3+r5DaPTlqoLJ1QMrXWY8OA= X-QQ-mid: esmtp20t1433120165t321t31112 Received: from [10.30.189.249] (unknown [114.242.250.50]) by esmtp4.qq.com (ESMTP) with id ; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 08:56:02 +0800 (CST) X-QQ-SSF: C100000000000090F5100F00000000Z X-QQ-FEAT: wobzSXj0Mt7PSocpu8SzWmgMZJpNhqJEBNK3BObV9wRD+gtGfVLZwDQNXg5aF itm0JRrFMfTr16BUUfuZdJpzjPmvkTiLTe6sbw8/uXLC1OQvEUe7IoVh6H+yOsg4EwgrsEm q9MJfMb5dvIUpLSyfMnYBok4Bi7Y9lI2DcfRhBygC5SpwEnEmfbQB1RQUD9zYp6svbe5x7c 0P+eq/NZrbVbDwEdEQNK1NgiS7VlLI7A= X-QQ-GoodBg: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: anyone used AliYun cloud? From: Gavin Mu X-Mailer: iPad Mail (12F69) In-Reply-To: <556B2B93.4050305@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:55:56 +0800 Cc: "virtualization@FreeBSD.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <556A9F88.80406@freebsd.org> <48CDFA47-08B8-47A5-82C7-E3A8171042CE@qq.com> <556B2B93.4050305@freebsd.org> To: Julian Elischer X-QQ-SENDSIZE: 520 X-QQ-Bgrelay: 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 00:56:21 -0000 This is a little long story... We have one product based on FreeBSD, and som= eones thought it is difficult to deploy on some popular clouds, especially i= n China, such as QingCloud and Aliyun, all provide Linux and Windows images b= ut not FreeBSD. First I tried on QingCloud, who uses KVM, and FreeBSD can run, but it failed= to be saved as an image. =46rom the communication with QingCloud engineers,= I knew they use guestfs and can not recognize UFS filesystem. Several days ago, I tried Aliyun, who use Xen. FreeBSD can run also, and can= also be saved as an image, but VM provisioning failed. Their engineer told m= e that the file system has been changed and can not work. Later I tried to make a dual OS image, with 2GB Ubuntu on ext2 as the first M= BR primary partition, and the second one as FreeBSD, VM provisioning can wor= k now. I believe the ext2 partition can be reduced, but it must be very careful to n= ot break VM provisioning. Both QingCloud and Aliyun use the technology to write the initial configurat= ions to guest file system during VM provisioning, the difference is QingClou= d do checks when saving images, and Aliyun not. I am planning to try QingClo= ud again with the dual OS solution. We have also built an internal channel with Aliyun guys recently, but they d= id not tell the release date for FreeBSD support (business reason maybe). Regards, Gavin Mu > On May 31, 2015, at 23:41, Julian Elischer wrote: >=20 >> On 5/31/15 6:06 PM, Gavin Mu wrote: >> They use guestfs to do VM provisioning, and FreeBSD support is not ready t= o public yet. >>=20 >> If FreeBSD must be used, one workaround is to keep the first MBR partitio= n as Linux ext2, and write some scripts to read configurations from Linux. >=20 > thanks.. > Firstly, How do you know this? (I don't disbelieve it, I just want to know= where you learned this information so I can look there too for more informa= tion). > Secondly, is your comment "is not ready to public yet" talking about gues= tfs or aliyun? and can you expand on "yet"? >=20 > Julian >=20 >>=20 >> Regards, >> Gavin Mu >>=20 >>> On May 31, 2015, at 13:43, Julian Elischer wrote: >>>=20 >>> Aliyun cloud is alibaba's amazon cloud competitor. Also uses Xen. >>> They offer Linux and windows of course but nothing in FreeBSD. >>> Has anyone looked at it? It's coming up with $JOB as a question vs Free= BSD. >>>=20 >>> Julian >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-virtualization-unsubscribe@fre= ebsd.org" >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20