From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 18:03:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA99F1065673 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7938FC13 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so254492wra.27 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TcDpL0ABgmguQsoSgdwNeflClaMNdOj8HVJVTkJrO6Y=; b=behFT+HUKWhTZLTw/o11g0WmTLA7d0ggSORSN4YNlUEUn6dNUWwOU4Askdl2T5p+fo GwiaTPjxicrd5vIdq28grWs5jnRw/U0AhI47z+cGuw8yMKlL5nqVnZoTGh/sBvZuLtcu rEmbTNp6Ln/5+jjz6yYum9UctufglO3APQDgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Y8S21Fgn88mVNXlMTBdzlvKoM829iU8Qs+s541tAIHtlcZr95zGLuE5BqVQQzMh4Af Mzp3Y5wTSRcQSuuc21bfsyou0I0I6EuFaGTtGl7tSFxSU8VoNzMl4QW1dx9f8zpYlJrb t64+Zd7f6aJDUeX5PTCFRlwctiCJ9KTdbbDNc= Received: by 10.90.81.19 with SMTP id e19mr2201865agb.24.1218737019014; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.65.9 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20808141103p2cd9f504gf3936904d47f7732@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:03:38 -0400 From: Jim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080813193446.GB11361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20808130917k2ddc8a3aj54edd9fe79c83788@mail.gmail.com> <20080813193446.GB11361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: ATi & Intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:03:41 -0000 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > The last ATI chip with full open-source 3D accelleration support is the > 2950 (RV280), but 3D and accelleration support for newer chips is > actively being worked on. ATI is even going to provide the developers > with documentation (could be that that has happened by now?). Last I heard they got the documentation for card initialization and (I think) power management. No acceleration docs yet. It still came to over 900 pages. Hopefully there's been more since. > The driver that you want for ATI cards is xf86-video-ati. But for the > most features you'll have to compile it yourself from the code in a git > repository. You'll probably need an updated DRM driver as well. ok, it looks like the radeon (no HD) driver is part of the xf86-video-ati driver, and by the size of the ati_drv.so file, I'm guessing most of what ati_drv.so does is access and control the access of radeon_drv, correct? I wonder why there's no cutoff for the 3D functionality in the ATi driver's man page. It just lists all supported cards without mention of which have 3D implementations (try `man radeon`). -Jim Stapleton