From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 18:24:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A67116A400 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7D713C45E for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4FINTX0052423; Tue, 15 May 2007 12:23:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 12:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20070515.122336.-1253044239.imp@bsdimp.com> To: ivoras@fer.hr From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <46482AD2.7010700@fer.hr> References: <46478C9A.9050807@fer.hr> <86lkfryjds.fsf@dwp.des.no> <46482AD2.7010700@fer.hr> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 15 May 2007 12:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: des@des.no, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS DOWN X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:24:18 -0000 In message: <46482AD2.7010700@fer.hr> Ivan Voras writes: : > I see no reason not vindicate their mistakes. : : I do: these days I need to heavily justify using FreeBSD instead of : Linux, and "the applications you want to run don't actually work on : FreeBSD" is not a nice thing to say. We can't possibly be bug-for-bug compatible with Linux. That's just an impossible standard to hit. Given the level of bugs in Linux, it isn't desirable. :-) : I feel that nowadays it's not a contest in popularity, it's damage : control phase. We just need more people to run PHP more often to catch these things and submit patches to the authors. That's the real problem here. While the primary authors assume all the world is Linux, having a vocal base of testers for FreeBSD pounding them into submission will fix the problem quickly. : OTOH, everyone's entitled to his own opinion and won't argue this point : any more. Agreed. Warner