From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 14:22:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7D537B404 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7629843F85 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by phk.freebsd.dk (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6KLMbV3072164; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:22:37 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6KLMUIE001625; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:22:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Rus Foster From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:14:15 PDT." <20030720141331.D2947@thor.65535.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:22:30 +0200 Message-ID: <1624.1058736150@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:22:40 -0000 In message <20030720141331.D2947@thor.65535.net>, Rus Foster writes: >I know recently that the jails have changed maintainer and I just wondered >if there is any road map of features that will be upcoming and in which >versions.. Well... Jails havn't quite changed maintainer because both Robert Watson and I have some grave concerns about the architectural direction and control of jails. The problem with jails is that the code has its fingers all over the kernel, and therefore more than average attention is needed to the code and the way things are done. In addition to that we also have had a hard time defining where we are headed with jails, for instance there is a patchset out there which totally virtualizes the network stack, and that may be a better model for jails etc. The problem is that neither Robert nor I can currently find the necessary time to steer/maintain/mentor jails. So right now we havn't quite appointed a new maintainer for jails, but we're very much aware that something needs to move, possibly "us out of the way". -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.