From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 19 20:26:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9580F1065673; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487C68FC1C; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OmBRR-0006Gw-2L; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:10:25 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OmBRQ-0001Ti-Oz; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:10:24 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o7JKAOJr020309; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:10:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o7JKAOuB020308; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:10:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:10:24 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Alexander Leidinger Message-ID: <20100819201024.GA20254@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <65F17C45-55C1-4349-A4D1-A3D6AD0D9A80@FreeBSD.org> <4C6C1EB1.5000004@FreeBSD.org> <20100819090128.22597bbvyogdw9wk@webmail.leidinger.net> <86fwybdkt4.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100819113548.72614imi2zxx9log@webmail.leidinger.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100819113548.72614imi2zxx9log@webmail.leidinger.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Rui Paulo , "current@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper , "arch@freebsd.org" , Gabor Kovesdan , Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=C3=3F=3Frgrav?= Subject: Re: Removal of ICC (intel compiler) bits from mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:26:50 -0000 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:35:48AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Quoting Dag-Erling SmÃ??rgrav (from Thu, 19 Aug 2010 > 11:16:23 +0200): > > > Alexander Leidinger writes: > >> If someone would get icc 11.x up and runnig as a port (similar to what > >> we have for outdated icc version in the ports collection), I would > >> have a look if my contact at Intel is still working there in a > >> position which allows him to get a commercial license for us. > > > > Does that really matter? We're not going to start building releases > > with icc, are we? > > It could matter for ports, I do not know if it matters for parts in > src. The commercial license is also the only way that we could get icc > installed on machines in the FreeBSD cluster (if there's interest to > have another compiler *for FreeBSD development* to check the source > against... the warnng and error messages are better that those of gcc, > I do not know how they compare to clang). If one begins to mention FreeBSD clusters, and moreover FreeBSD HPC, then this becomes a somewhat different discussion. One of the stubmling blocks for HPC on FreeBSD (just one of many, perhaps not even the major one) is a complete lack of good quality commercial compilers. All weÃ'got is gcc or clang. Both are not really that great, and definitely inferior to commercial compilers, e.g. Intel. What IÃ'm saying is that it would be great if Intel sold a compiler for FreeBSD. I'd ve bought a copy. But from what others have said, my impression is that the ICC port is unlikely to fill this void. P.S. My interests and expertise are in computational mechanics, not in compilers, so feel free to correct me if IÃ'm wrong. P.P.S. Regarding FreeBSD HPC see also this thead: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-August/220264.html (FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA) -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423