From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 27 9:51:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBD937B400; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-20-214.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.20.214]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA10973; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:51:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020127115133.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:51:33 -0600 To: "M. Warner Losh" From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness Cc: cjc@FreeBSD.ORG, nate@yogotech.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020127.102748.70374201.imp@village.org> References: <3.0.5.32.20020127075816.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> <20020127014848.F23259@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020127.052626.107682843.imp@village.org> <3.0.5.32.20020127075816.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The reason I mentioned leaving the FW rule loading out of the boot process, I too have some things that at the moment cause problems loading some other things with the rules in there. So after enough of that, I now start the FW right after booting... of course hoping I don't forget to load the rules at the moment bootup finishes.... BUT, of course I don't boot very often and flush/reload the FW rules more often.... especially if I need to tweak a rule. At 10:27 AM 1.27.2002 -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: >In message: <3.0.5.32.20020127075816.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> > jacks@sage-american.com writes: >: What would be wrong with booting without loading a FW script and then >: loading the rules after the boot is finished...??? > >Right now what I have works. You are changing the semantics of a >security related feature of the system in such a way that after this >change what I have will not work. I agree that your work around will >allow me to easily correct things. However, if I fail to do so, I >open my firewall up completely. To me, that's an unacceptible change >in the API. > >Warner > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin =================================================== Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; ....situation excellent! ....I shall attack!" =================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message