From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 12 06:12:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28851 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28813; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:12:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (pb@mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.10-nospam) with ESMTP id PAA16340; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:12:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5/pb-19970301) id PAA00428; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:10:59 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19980312151059.HP44817@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:10:59 +0100 From: Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr (Pierre Beyssac) To: jkh@FreeBSD.ORG (Jordan K. Hubbard) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my worldstone References: <199803120147.RAA01017@rah.star-gate.com> <1834.889669810@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1e Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1834.889669810@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mar 11, 1998 18:30:10 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Jordan K. Hubbard: > I know, but the real problem here is that people are still comparing > this "worldstone" figure in the same way they'd compare dhrystones or > xstones or whatever and ultimately people are going to be making > hardware decisions based on those numbers. It's no use saying now > foolish such a practice is, it's simply inevitable - *people like > numbers*. :-) There are two reasons why people do these worldstones: (1) compare hardware (2) compare system configuration tweaks, or other software improvements (different compilers, for example) As long as people keep changing their system config (including removing huge steps of the make world process) to improve their compile time, there's absolutely no point in comparing anything about hardware. Most people posting their results here want (and do) (2) on their own system, and they end up comparing (1) on the list. IMHO this makes no sense. > 4. -pipe must be added to CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf. *no other build > optimizations or omissions can be done!* Same goes for additions - > no kerberos bits enabled. IMHO absolutely no change should be made regarding make world by anybody wanting to compare times with each other. Why not directly include -pipe in the official make.conf if that is so useful? -- Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message