From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Dec 7 14:14:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDED9E881C9 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B556466042 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from desk.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B5D1043F; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by desk.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 73E0148F3E; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:04:42 +0000 (UTC) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Gordon Tetlow Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Dewayne Geraghty Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs References: <97f76231-dace-10c4-cab2-08e5e0d792b5@rawbw.com> <5A2709F6.8030106@grosbein.net> <11532fe7-024d-ba14-0daf-b97282265ec6@rawbw.com> <8788fb0d-4ee9-968a-1e33-e3bd84ffb892@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20171205220849.GH9701@gmail.com> <24153.1512513836@critter.freebsd.dk> <1C30FE91-753A-47A4-9B33-481184F853E1@tetlows.org> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 15:04:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1C30FE91-753A-47A4-9B33-481184F853E1@tetlows.org> (Gordon Tetlow's message of "Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:18:21 -0800") Message-ID: <867etyzlad.fsf@desk.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 14:14:27 -0000 Gordon Tetlow writes: > Assertion of identity and encryption in transit are separate issues. I > do agree that identity is fundamentally broken with the existing CA > system. I=E2=80=99m more interested in preventing tampering of data in > transit. HTTPS is an easy way to do that. You can't have the latter without the former. Assertion of identity is the only protection against MITM eavesdropping or tampering. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no