From owner-freebsd-net Tue Apr 17 10:38:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B59737B424; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:38:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA56704; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:37:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200104171737.KAA56704@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: non-random IP IDs In-Reply-To: <20010417043130.F976@fw.wintelcom.net> from Alfred Perlstein at "Apr 17, 2001 04:31:30 am" To: bright@wintelcom.net (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed), julian@elischer.org (Julian Elischer), freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, net@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > * Darren Reed [010417 04:29] wrote: > > In some mail from Julian Elischer, sie said: > > > > > > there is a site that calculates server uptime from these numbers. > > > All the leading machines are freeBSD. When you do this it will > > > no-longer be able to track us :-( > > > > IMHO, extraordinarily large uptimes are nothing to be proud of and > > say nothing about the quality of software. > > > > I'd almost go so far as to say uptimes greater than 1 year indicate > > that the system administration practises need review. > > Agreed. I've yet to hear about any seriously deployed system > go without security advisories for over a year. Or perhaps this is a very talented system admin who values uptime and finds work arounds that don't envolve downing a system that do just as good, and sometimes better, than the vendor fix for the security issue. Security Fix != Reboot required. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message