From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 14 02:15:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390EC16A4CE; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:15:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.cryptography.com (li-22.members.linode.com [64.5.53.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E8E43D2D; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from [10.0.0.34] (adsl-67-119-74-222.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.119.74.222]) by www.cryptography.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBE2FFug012311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:15:16 -0800 Message-ID: <41BE4CB2.9050307@root.org> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:15:14 -0800 From: Nate Lawson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <200412060827.iB68RAmE058040@repoman.freebsd.org> <20041213191239.GB19680@dragon.nuxi.com> <200412131416.54087.peter@wemm.org> <20041214013304.GB3352@dragon.nuxi.com> <41BE4691.9080104@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41BE4691.9080104@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/pci pci_cfgreg.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:15:17 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > > There is a benefit from the new generation of devices that are coming > out for only PCI-Express and have features and performance that will not > be matched in their PCI-X counterparts. While it's always fun for > FreeBSD to be chronically behind the curve in device support, I'd like > to experiment with breaking that feature and seeing if anyone has a > heart attack when their bleeding edge NIC or storage card works the day > that they buy it, instead of months/years later. > > Scott I'm sorry, that does violate several of our founding principles: FreeBSD supports an extremely wide range of PC hardware, as long as it was obtained at less than cost. and FreeBSD supports every peripheral available for the IBM PC except the ones you have. BTW, wpaul is one of the worst violators of this philosophy, making every possible PCI ethernet chipset work out of the box. http://worldserver.oleane.com/rsn/extrait-FAQ.html -- Nate