From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 22:15:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2A01065671; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) Received: from mail.netconsonance.com (mail.netconsonance.com [198.207.204.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481948FC14; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) Received: from 4.151.178.10.in-addr.arpa (m420e36d0.tmodns.net [208.54.14.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.netconsonance.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m57MFm0p063044; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:15:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netconsonance.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=3.5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44, AWL=-0.179, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.617] Message-Id: From: Jo Rhett To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <484AF52A.108@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:15:42 -0700 References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846D849.2090005@FreeBSD.org> <80D7EE2D-A970-407B-A42C-AD17500BC463@netconsonance.com> <861w3cf2pj.fsf@ds4.des.no> <2892DF94-B346-4F36-9D32-165A2EA462D1@netconsonance.com> <484AF52A.108@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:15:58 -0000 On Jun 7, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> I'd said nearly a dozen times that the issues I have aren't >> specifics. I am questioning the overall policy for EoL here. > > Your concerns have been noted. You seem unwilling or unable to > accept the explanation that no matter what you think about the > situation, we don't have the resources to support 6.2. I haven't been given an explanation. I was given that bare statement. An explanation might help me understand where I can help improve the situation. > Furthermore, according to the vast number of people with way more > experience and way more hardware running 6.3 than you have (jhb from > Yahoo! alone qualifies in this category, but he wasn't alone) your > concerns are in fact, misplaced. The people that I know of working around problems in 6.3 all work at Yahoo, so ... > To drive this thread even further into the realm of uselessness, you > seem to be dead set on replying to every single post, saying > basically the same thing over and over, and not listening to > anything anyone is telling you. So far I have been (a) insulted (b) told to "take it or leave it" or (c) demanded to provide specific PRs. Nobody has responded to the question. > So I would like to suggest that you simply stop. Enjoy your trip. > When you come back if you have specific concerns about your > EXPERIENCE running 6.3 (or later) on your specific hardware, fire > away. I suspect you are right, it's time to stop dealing with FreeBSD. The product is quality, but the abuse one has to sustain to ask a question on the mailing list isn't worth it. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness