From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 1 00:34:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB20716A418 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 00:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4634C13C481 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 00:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id l9VNPOv16525; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:25:24 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <20071101102524.42883@caamora.com.au> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:25:24 +1100 From: jonathan michaels To: "Matthew D. Fuller" References: <4724BAD9.7000400@charter.net> <20071028164152.GA7516@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <4724BEB3.5080905@charter.net> <20071029132447.GA2658@kobe.laptop> <4727063E.7060107@dial.pipex.com> <20071031143923.GA1580@over-yonder.net> <20071031190830.GJ82954@cicely12.cicely.de> <20071031193045.GD1580@over-yonder.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <20071031193045.GD1580@over-yonder.net>; from Matthew D. Fuller on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 02:30:45PM -0500 Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Cc: stable@freebsd.org, ticso@cicely.de, Alex Zbyslaw Subject: Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:34:18 -0000 On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 02:30:45PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of > Bernd Walter, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > I don't completly agree. > > Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems as > > well and I prefer having manpoages there as well. given microsofts new operating system release of late and the even greater dependance on far more expensive computers, is leaving the computer world 'underclass' with even less choice so to speak. i deal with a group of disabled people (i too have significant disabilities) that are finding ther increasing reliance on computers to deal with the needs of everyday lives .. beacue it is assumed that 'everybody' has access to teh internet and more and more govt beurocracys are putting ther infromation up on teh internet and not making any consessions for people who haven't that kind of accessability, either because of cost of isp, cost of raw computing power, toc of teh computing 'experience' and so on. > Oh, I don't argue that there are cases where catpages are still > useful. But I think they're the exception, not the rule. When you're > setting up a tiny system (by whatever the standards of the given day > are) or an appliance, you expect the tradeoffs to be rather different no, i disagree, i expect my operating system to be usable and to be consistant in its ability to interoperate with my abilaty to use it with teh resources at my disposal .. human/financial/accessibility > than on a normal (by said standards) general-purpose computer. and what is "normal" ?? while i was fortunate enough to be able to aquire a reasonable workhorse not all people in my situation are so fortunate. sorry for my noise, i am not complaining rather asking for a bit of thinkings and for some tolerance fro people who still use "old" machines .. as teh world moves into a "situation normal" information/govt services is only delivered by automatied computer delivery systems greater sections of teh community ar going to be isolated form this new world because tehy cannot get teh tools to access what is ever increasingly concider teh normal way of doing things > Heck, looking at Soekris, everything above the 4501 class is probably > faster than my laptop 8-} > perhaps, many people, not those only on the fringe of society do not have computer systems that even make it to that meager "standard" to paraphrase a .sig i have seen often in these parts, standards are wonderfull things, there are so many to choose from !! regards appreciations and thanks for all your efforts in making a freebsd that i can still use and actually find enjoyable. cheers jonathan -- ================================================================ powered by .. QNX, OS9 and freeBSD -- http://caamora com au/operating system ==== === appropriate solution in an inappropriate world === ====