From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 9 16:02:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA00440 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 16:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (michael@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00433 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 16:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michael@localhost) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA11916; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 16:05:39 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 16:05:39 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon X-Sender: michael@okjunc.junction.net To: Joe Greco cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware for ISP / WWW server In-Reply-To: <199512092135.PAA22574@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: Organization: we provide consulting re: Internet servers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Joe Greco wrote: > Oh, the pain. :-/ Basically I've been on the "other side of the glass" a > lot of times as I have seen a lot of people who are exasperated with (X, Y, > Z, combination of, etc.) about the Portmasters. That is not to say that > they do not fill their intended purpose, Well, if they fill their intended purpose, then they must be a good thing, eh? > but they do seem to me to be the > VW Bug of terminal servers (everybody has 'em, nobody likes 'em, everybody > has to open the trunk and tinker every once in a while in order to work > around quirks). And I suppose your FreeBSD solution doesn't require you to open the trunk and tinker every once in a while in order to work around quirks? Lets face it, Portmasters are like any other quality high-tech equipment. They are great when they work, but can be a pain to learn what they can do and how to make them do what you want. If you have the time to spend on it, there is nothing wrong with setting up a FreeBSD terminal server, especially if you use a hacked login to act as a RADIUS client to your shell machine. But some ISP's don't have the time to spend on this and for those people a Livingston Portmaster is a great solution. That's probably why most of the people on the Portmaster Users list are ISP's. Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-542-4130 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com