From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 25 11:26:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA11163 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:26:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from voltage.net (voltage.net [208.15.104.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11140 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:26:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sward@voltage.net) Received: from voltage (ppp11.voltage.net [208.15.104.83]) by voltage.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18457; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:25:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971125133137.006b2130@mail.voltage.net> X-Sender: sward@mail.voltage.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 13:31:38 -0600 To: Greg Lehey From: Susie Ward Subject: Re: Web Page Restrictions Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:14 PM 11/25/97 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 04:36:57PM +0800, Wu Jie wrote: >I thought I was on the Internet, not on a private Microsoft network. >I will certainly work to keep it that way. On the Internet, the RFCs >define what is correct, and these mailers contravene the >specifications by reformatting both on sending and on reception. Greg I 100% agree with this and anyone who doesn't must be more willing to live in a nightmare of tech support than I am! This goes far beyond email, it actually involves EVERY aspect of the Internet. What do you people think the Internet would be like if there were NO standards and everyone just wrote Internet applications to suit their own whims (much like MS seems to do)? Perhaps this one little complaint about one little email someone sent to a list may seem a bit petty, but what if EVERY email program used their own protocols and formats? Standards are the building blocks and the foundation of the Internet, without standards it would have NEVER made it this far! Let's say that MS creates it's own mail protocol that isn't compliant with any of the current protocols in use today and let's say that MS included a free email program that utilized this protocol on EVERY operating system they sold. Now MS has a damn hefty market share do they not? How many of YOUR users are using Win95? I know that 95% of mine are. Now lets say that in order to operate a mail server that supported this protocol that all our users are wanting so badly we had to purchase a mail server from MS and what if MS wanted $1,000 for this "special" mail server? Now that example is probably a bit far fetched (or is it?) and a little strayed from the original topic of the actual format of an email. Also, right now today wouldn't work because there are many free email programs we could provide our users (i.e. Pegasus, Eudora Light), but this is today. What about 3 years from now? Susie