From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 30 07:15:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B166916A41F for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 07:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-222-116-82.jan.bellsouth.net [68.222.116.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DAF43D45 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 07:15:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id A49AB21008; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 02:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 02:15:03 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Vivek Khera Message-ID: <20050730071503.GA35495@over-yonder.net> References: <42E67972.4000700@nurfuerspam.de> <03E81E5E-7292-490E-8540-66B8CC4F98C4@khera.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <03E81E5E-7292-490E-8540-66B8CC4F98C4@khera.org> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i-fullermd.2 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 vs amd64 - benchmark results X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 07:15:06 -0000 On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 11:52:30AM -0400 I heard the voice of Vivek Khera, and lo! it spake thus: > > The amd64 memory architecture is NUMA -- that is, depending on how > your RAM is layed out, some of it is faster to access for each > processor. Accessing RAM "local" to the other processor(s) is > slower. On the other hand, I've heard from various sources (this is all pure hearsay, so trust it as much as it deserves) that in practice NUMAization in this case isn't really a gain. It's non-uniform, but it's not nearly as non-uniform as a lot of applications of the term, and the performance penalty is so small in absolute terms that the added complexity that comes with NUMA awareness can actually be enough to make it a net loss. But then, I usually don't know what I'm talking about 8-} -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.