From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 27 12:45:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from argus.tfs.net (host1-225.birch.net [216.212.1.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B684A1600F; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbryant@argus.tfs.net) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by argus.tfs.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) id OAA28209; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:43:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199908271943.OAA28209@argus.tfs.net> Subject: Re: Intel Merced FreeBSD??? Intel? - NOT In-Reply-To: <199908271844.LAA29944@kithrup.com> from Sean Eric Fagan at "Aug 27, 99 11:44:55 am" To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:43:19 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: jbryant@tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-files: The truth is that the X-Files is fiction X-Republican: The best kind!!! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #31: Thu Apr 8 10:40:17 CDT 1999 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply: > In article you write: > >Actually, I was reading in a newsgroup, the VMS newsgroup I think it was, > >that the PA-RISC chip is on the Merced chip. Basically, Intel will sell > >Merced's with the chip disabled (kind of like the math co-processor on the > >486 SX's) and HP will sell it with the PA-RISC chip enabled so it can run > >HP-UX. > > *sigh* > > Look, people, the Merced WILL NOT excuse PA-RISC code directly. It will be > done via emulation/translation, and only a certain particular OS will be > supported (HP-UX 11, I believe they stated -- since HP-UX 11 runs almost all > HP-UX 10.* applications with no problem, I am _guessing_ that this means they > will continue to work). > > I really don't know how people get started with this. HP has _never_ stated > that the chip will handle it; all they have stated is that HPUX applications > will continue to be supported. > > I suggest you people go read comp.arch for a while; there's a fair bit of > information cropping up there. For example, there's a wonderful thread going > on about HP's previous experience with architecture emulation, including some > interesting comments by people at HP. Well, the way I understand things, HP-UX 11 comes in two flavors, 32 bits and 64 bits. I think that 32-bit code is handled in a legacy emulation under 64 bit 11, I'd have to double check that though with the book. jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message