Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:40:48 +0159 From: Claudio Jeker <cjeker@diehard.n-r-g.com> To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeVRRPd project status Message-ID: <20050413184110.GB16696@diehard.n-r-g.com> In-Reply-To: <425D6378.5080108@he.iki.fi> References: <425196F0.4020309@x-trader.de> <6731347a839d85db456b1c5a33bcf0b5@mac.com> <864qeibp0v.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050413171132.B96104@electra.nolink.net> <20050413181931.GA16696@diehard.n-r-g.com> <425D6378.5080108@he.iki.fi>
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:22:48PM +0300, Petri Helenius wrote: > Claudio Jeker wrote: > > >On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 05:14:52PM +0200, Lars Erik Gullerud wrote: > > > > > >>On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> writes: > >>> > >>> > >>>>It's dead, I think: Cisco's lawyers started making predatory noises > >>>>about their "intellectual property". Some people from NetBSD are > >>>>working on a replacement called CARP, which you might want to check > >>>>out-- it seems that FreeBSD will be picking up support for this soon, > >>>>as well. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>CARP comes from OpenBSD, not NetBSD, and is already in FreeBSD. > >>> > >>> > >>...and can't safely be deployed in a lot of datacenter scenarios where > >>the providers gear is running VRRP, since the OpenBSD-folks didn't bother > >>to read up on how the process of obtaining a protocol number works, and > >>hence used the one assigned to VRRP after a half-baked attempt at getting > >>one themselves. Hence making CARP pretty much useless for ISPs, no matter > >>how good it may or may not be otherwise. > >> > >> > >> > > > >This is not true. First of all the "OpenBSD-folks" asked IANA for protocol > >numbers for CARP and pfsync but IANA denied it. The reason was that CARP > >was not developped through an official standards organization. > > > > > > > Did this recently change since looking at /etc/protocols it does not > seem to be the case for most of them anyway? > Most new protocols come from either some company, DARPA or some US university. CARP was developped by neither of those three and it is long known that IETF and IANA are just a pathetic bunch of company deputies. -- :wq Claudio
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