From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Mon Jul 27 05:31:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF979ACC6A; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gold.funkthat.com", Issuer "gold.funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9AF8820; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t6R5FvD5060511 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 26 Jul 2015 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id t6R5FvCM060510; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 22:15:57 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: Scott Long , Alexey Dokuchaev , svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, src-committers , Mark R V Murray , svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r284959 - in head: . share/man/man4 share/man/man9 sys/conf sys/dev/glxsb sys/dev/hifn sys/dev/random sys/dev/rndtest sys/dev/safe sys/dev/syscons sys/dev/ubsec sys/dev/virtio/random sy... Message-ID: <20150727051557.GC78154@funkthat.com> References: <20150724012519.GE78154@funkthat.com> <20150725143629.GA49086@FreeBSD.org> <20150726225158.GA66594@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150726225158.GA66594@neutralgood.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 26 Jul 2015 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 05:31:43 -0000 kpneal@pobox.com wrote this message on Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 18:51 -0400: > > Microphones don???t typically exist on virtual machines, servers, appliances/embedded gadgets, and trusted computers. Nice idea for the desktop, but far from universal. > > Personally, I _hate_ the idea of having a mic on my desktop. If the machine > is hacked the mic can be turned against me. Same with cameras. If there > is no mic (and no camera) then I can't be harmed in this way. I should have been more clear on my use of the "mic"... I'm only talking about using the mic input w/o a mic attached... Even w/o the mic attached, there are slight variations in the input due to the ADC and pre-amp... > There have been women who were blackmailed because they took their laptop > with them when they were bathing. Obviously I'm not going to be blackmailed > in this way (I'm a guy, for starters), but the principle holds. I want to > be able to hold a private conversation in the same room as my computer and > not have to worry about anyone listening in. It's impossible for FreeBSD to attach a mic if there isn't one already attached, nor will it ever be required to attach one to run FreeBSD. Also, if one is hardwired, like in many laptops, using it for randomness won't increase or decrease the likelyhood of the above happening... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."