Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:26:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org> To: Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de> Cc: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SUCCESS: Sun Blade 100 with Firewire-attached HDD (IEEE 1394) Message-ID: <20050617192646.GA15469@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050617112534.U80563@newtrinity.zeist.de> References: <42A4C2E0.9010007@cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> <20050607000820.B80563@newtrinity.zeist.de> <20050617080938.GD1485@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050617112534.U80563@newtrinity.zeist.de>
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:25:34AM +0200, Marius Strobl wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 01:09:38AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > I feel the language is fine. For entire existence of the FreeBSD/sparc64 > > I've never missed firewire or floppy on my SunBlade 100. When we wrote > > the notes, "fully supported" mean the CPU, on-board disk controller (ATA > > or SCSI), NIC, and sio(4) were fully supported. For typical development > > and server deployment that is all that was needed. > > > > There are devices found on some i386 machines that we don't support > > (wireless NIC and modem, usb2 for a long time), yet most would consider > > them "fully supported". > > Personally I agree but the "fully supported" in the sparc64 hardware > notes seems to regularly trick people into thinking that FreeBSD is > a drop-in replacement for Solaris in all aspects which simply isn't > true. > FYI, even sio(4) was never fully supported by the in-tree sources, > in order to use the NS16650 with sio(4) as a console on sparc64 one > had to apply the hacks from people.freebsd.org/~tmm. AFAICT for the > entire existence of FreeBSD/sparc64 the ALI ATA controllers used > on-board in Blade 100 etc. also were only guaranteed to work at > UDMA33, regardless whether used with original Sun drives or not > (f.e. search the freebsd-sparc64 archives for tmm@ talking about > data corruption at UDMA66). Given such limitations im not sure > whether it was and is advisable to describe e.g. the Blade 100 as > "fully supported", even by your definition. *shrug* I've done 3.5 years of FreeBSD/sparc64 development on a SunBlade 100. "Works for me". -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
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