From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 12 20:11:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DC2C07B0 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) Received: from mo6-p01-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p01-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5301::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.smtp.rzone.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 466n6S1jF0z3yHF for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1565640669; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=YrUDEs68NQK9qUF7rW79rKKY3Oq1NYT5AfqFTvpQ+8c=; b=pGvoosCA+thspv1L9MOJRf7Pp4cs0BZlXA09nsAq37JWA08vIMxCfftJ6a3Rd3gFWg LmKfwkEoeIm8fOZCUoPDb7xcNLiBbhMIamiNQgAShC8L0WdT7YZKBVQs8WwWFCvhHXlg oKxSBPeI3aggiGRFfXMRgvXEQPeMl15hQa367GRpUr4nyRPXXuwRtoVKh2AX23Iq35RV /jcL8nMqj15laOoRuWKRj3rY9sbNoC74UROQB97e6SSglwhYNjqaa0xFbRHCo96acpqs V5HI7+PN1dg+1ezECH8/hxfwDzqaiU92s/JsMipcZmKzaDYWoA/VEJ8a2b2Ofty7nQFT muJw== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+ARdaXvxIDf7nlw=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from himinbjorg.adminart.net by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.24 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id e0059dv7CKB93dU (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:11:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toy.adminart.net ([192.168.3.55]) by himinbjorg.adminart.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hxGeq-00010u-F5; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:11:08 +0200 Received: from lee by toy.adminart.net with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hxGeq-00025H-DT; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:11:08 +0200 From: hw To: Polytropon Cc: hw , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox or what? In-Reply-To: <20190812182109.634721dd.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Mon, 12 Aug 2019 18:21:09 +0200") Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:10:43 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87sgq616ws.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <20190812173754.9bbd34f75885d616ae5d074a@gc-24.de> <20190812182109.634721dd.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 466n6S1jF0z3yHF X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adminart.net header.s=strato-dkim-0002 header.b=pGvoosCA; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lee@adminart.net has no SPF policy when checking 2a01:238:20a:202:5301::1) smtp.mailfrom=lee@adminart.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.81 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adminart.net:s=strato-dkim-0002]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adminart.net]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adminart.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.939,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1.0.3.5.2.0.2.0.a.0.2.0.8.3.2.0.1.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6724, ipnet:2a01:238::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; IP_SCORE(-0.77)[ipnet: 2a01:238::/32(-3.37), asn: 6724(-0.46), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:11:13 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:37:54 +0200, hw wrote: >> Hi, >> >> does any of the Firefox versions that can be installed with pkg >> actually work? Firefix continues to freeze, crash, being unable to >> remember its settings, to not show up at all when starting it other >> than in the process list, and it usually can't be killed even with >> kill -9. > > I have a FreeBSD 12.0-p7/i386 installation running Firefox 68.0, > and I don't have any problems. I even tried "modern" web pages, > and even though Firefox sometimes seems to run a bit too slow, > no crashes or freezes. > > But what you're describing rings a bell. > > Just to make sure you're not suffering from an inconsistent > file system, boot your system in single-user mode and perform > a forced full fsck on all filesystems, especially those carrying > /usr/local and /home. Make sure you have the following setting > in /etc/rc.conf: > > background_fsck="NO" > > Inconsistent file system can definitely cause the kind of problem > you're seeing, so make sure it's not the case. > > NB: Does only apply to UFS. ;-) The /home directories are on the NFS server wich uses xfs on hardware RAID, and they work fine with the Linux version of Firefox when mounted by a Debian server. Other than that, you're right, the broken NFS implementation of FreeBSD kinda simulates a corrupt file system. >> If Firefox is incompatible with FreeBSD, what's the alternative? > > It isn't. Things that do not build or run on FreeBSD are either > marked "BROKEN", or aren't part of the ports collection. NFS should be marked BROKEN then. It's not only limited to exporting whole file systems, a bug which makes it unusable for almost everything, it is also unable to handle file locks. I will have to re-evaluate if it's a good idea to use FreeBSD for DNS servers. I'll probably be better off using Centos for that like for everything else.