From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:20:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A28F16A406 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Received: from kientzle.com (h-66-166-149-50.snvacaid.covad.net [66.166.149.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743C213C4C3 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.0.0.222] (p54.kientzle.com [66.166.149.54]) by kientzle.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l6FLKHH7010070; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <469A8F91.7090509@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:20:17 -0700 From: Tim Kientzle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060422 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ulrich Spoerlein References: <46992FFF.7010906@kientzle.com> <20070714223853.GF16579@britannica.bec.de> <469992CA.6000104@freebsd.org> <4699BE75.2090808@freebsd.org> <20070715184703.GK2819@roadrunner.q.local> In-Reply-To: <20070715184703.GK2819@roadrunner.q.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tar output mode for installworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:20:18 -0000 Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: > On Sat, 14.07.2007 at 23:28:05 -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote: > >> #%ntree >> bin/echo uid=0 gid=0 group=wheel contents=my/bin/echo >> >> ... create a tarball with >> tar -czf system.tgz @specification.ntree >> or install directly from the specification file using >> tar -xvpf specification.ntree -C ${DESTDIR} > > This would be the perfect basis on which to build a live/install release > CD. You boot it up ... [do] the fdisk/bsdlabel/gmirror/zfs stuff ... > [and] then kick of the install through tar. > > Simple and elegant. It would also do away with those base.aa, base.ab, > etc. madness. I'm confused. base.aa, etc, are a tar file, so I don't entirely understand how this would be different? The current installer does the equivalent of cat base.* | tar -xf - I can see one advantage and one disadvantage of installing a specification file (which references other files) instead: Plus: The specification file can re-use the existing files on CD, so you don't have, e.g., one copy of /bin/sh on the live CD and another buried in base.tgz. This could save space. Minus: Installing a specification file this way would be slower because you then have to read a lot of small files off of CD. Or have I missed something? Tim Kientzle