From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 08:11:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554551065670 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rink@rink.nu) Received: from mx1.rink.nu (gloom.rink.nu [213.34.49.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173D78FC13 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rink@rink.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.rink.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7DA6D42B; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:13:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rink.nu Received: from mx1.rink.nu ([213.34.49.2]) by localhost (gloom.rink.nu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FcPxhQxkOXb8; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:13:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by mx1.rink.nu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F278B6D423; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:13:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:13:16 +0100 From: Rink Springer To: Ed Schouten Message-ID: <20090219081316.GD15525@rink.nu> References: <499CC89E.2040408@ongs.co.jp> <20090219074401.GC19161@hoeg.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090219074401.GC19161@hoeg.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Current , Daichi GOTO , Masanori OZAWA , Hans Petter Selasky Subject: Re: USB2: booting from usb memory issue, including a foolish patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:11:30 -0000 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 08:44:01AM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > * Daichi GOTO wrote: > > Yes you know, very foolish patch but I have no idea to > > fix it in other way. If you have better ideas, please > > try and commit that. > > Maybe we should gain a "Waiting for 15 secons for SCSI devices to > settle", but for the USB subsystem? No thanks, it already takes aeons to boot FreeBSD, and adding extra delays for only USB devices will only make it worse :-( Isn't it possible to either use the CAM delay loop (which waits for SCSI devices) or just implement a generic "Waiting for devices" which both CAM and USB can use? -- Rink P.W. Springer - http://rink.nu "Chance favours the prepared mind" - Penn