From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jan 26 23:25:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBE537B420 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 23:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0R7PRo10561; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 00:25:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0R7PQx79039; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 00:25:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 00:23:37 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020127.002337.37328950.imp@village.org> To: nate@yogotech.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <15443.42601.781625.356369@caddis.yogotech.com> References: <15443.41177.259786.242696@caddis.yogotech.com> <3C53A5A2.A5F8FBD6@tenebras.com> <15443.42601.781625.356369@caddis.yogotech.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You still haven't responded to my comment that I have it setup like this on some of my boxes so that I can do things that don't fit in well with the current firewall paradigm. Nor to my comment that we shouldn't be changing a security feature in a fail*UN*safe way. I'll grant that I might be in the minority here, but I sure don't want my the ability to use my firewall going away after my "next" mergemaster change because you were helpful and unloaded/disabled stuff for me. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message