From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 23:04:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C677B16A421 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEAE13C458 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 4D1F85AD; Sat, 19 May 2007 18:04:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 18:04:25 -0500 To: Garrett Cooper Message-ID: <20070519230425.GA29783@soaustin.net> References: <464F6336.7040808@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <464F6336.7040808@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Ports tree : Xorg-7.2 release freeze, ETA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:04:25 -0000 On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 01:51:02PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Wouldn't it be sufficient to force major component testers (in this > case Xorg 7.2) to use periodic snapshots of the ports tree (possibly CVS > branching), while allowing continued development in the ports tree? In this particular case ... no. It was just too sweeping of a change, considering the X11BASE move. Other projects (GNOME, KDE, ...) do exactly this. It's a tradeoff of how much time is spent the one way or the other. The staging process for the xorg update involved literally dozens of major regression-test runs, most of which were done before the freeze. Asking them to have been doing even more, given the usual rapid rate of change in the ports tree, would have resulted in the integration taking even longer. As it was, we were pushing severe burnout on the people working on this thankless task. (And I thank flz@ again, if I haven't done so in public already). I can't imagine what major project on the horizon would ever be this sweeping again. mcl