From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 3 20:11:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FF116A41A; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B603413C43E; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7459517106; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l93KB1TJ053520; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:11:01 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "Jack Vogel" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:06:26 MST." <2a41acea0710031306p22d66379oc6575ad9ff5ea99d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:11:01 +0000 Message-ID: <53519.1191442261@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: RFC: Capability addition for IEEE 1588 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:11:00 -0000 In message <2a41acea0710031306p22d66379oc6575ad9ff5ea99d@mail.gmail.com>, "Jack Vogel" writes : >> When I talked to HP's licensing department, there were a $1k licensefee >> for anything IEEE1588 related and their message was that even if >> the FreeBSD foundation got such a license, the users would still >> have to have one as well if they compiled the source code or some >> such nonsense. > >What source code was being talked about? I'm not talking about >anything userland, and my driver is just turning on a hardware >feature, I can't imagine HP having anything to do with it, but I >double check internally. They seem to think they have a patent on doing things that way, no matter what hardware or software you use. If Intel chips have hw-support for timestamping, somebody at intel must have thought about the patent thing. But as I said, if that can be resolved, it should certainly go in. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.