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On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:18:15 +0300 Aleksandr Rybalko wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:10:44 +0100 symbolics@gmx.com wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 06:43:54AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> 3) Realise it's not yet ready for 10.0 or HEAD, and target it to be ready
>>> for MFC for a 10.1 release.
>>> 4) Delay 10.0 until this has matured enough in HEAD, then release it.
>>> 
>>> I really want to see more updated xorg support but the timing of it all
>>> feels a little overly rushed for a 10.0 release target.
>>> 
>>> What do others think?
>> 
>> FWIW, I'm really looking forward to newcons but I don't think it should
>> be rushed into a release. (3) Seems prudent.
> 
> Anyway it is optional.
> 
> s/device vt/#device vt/
> s/#device sc/device sc/
> 
> and you in the old, well known world :)

I think you need to remove the kernel config changes from the patch
and keep syscons the default for now.  There's no problem with putting
experimental code in HEAD but it can't be the default from day 1.