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Date:      Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:17:27 +0100
From:      Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Aud=E9oud?= <jadawin@FreeBSD.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Rene Ladan <rene@FreeBSD.org>, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r335281 - in head: . audio audio/gnump3d
Message-ID:  <20131202141727.GF71618@tuxaco.net>
In-Reply-To: <529C91F2.6020004@marino.st>
References:  <201311301102.rAUB2I21004889@svn.freebsd.org> <20131202093409.GA71618@tuxaco.net> <529C5F05.6020706@marino.st> <20131202104324.GB71618@tuxaco.net> <529C689B.9050902@marino.st> <20131202131244.GC71618@tuxaco.net> <529C8C1F.7050802@marino.st> <20131202134921.GD71618@tuxaco.net> <529C91F2.6020004@marino.st>

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On Mon, 02 Dec 2013, John Marino wrote:

> On 12/2/2013 14:49, Philippe Aud=E9oud wrote:
> >=20
> > Ok, just calm down, every thing gonne be all right... I didn't challenge
> > him, but I won't debate anymore, you don't look to be opened to a
> > debate.
> >=20
> > My personal think is : I was on week-end and i don't use computer on
> > week-end. I guess this delete commit could wait 2 days.
>=20
>=20
> Why should it?  It was the date you defined.
> Rene is right to assume that the port maintainer isn't intending to
> delete the port in a timely fashion because it almost never happens.
> Your desire to delete the port yourself on the expiration date is
> exceptional.
>

It should not be exceptional: deleting a port is a part of a port's
life. It's important to delete deprecated port to clean portstree.
=20
>=20
> >>
> >> This is the situation today.  My position is that this is a bad policy.
> >>  I say we should not have to wait 2 weeks to unbreak a port and your
> >> response is "wait up to 2 weeks to unbreak a port".  Perhaps I
> >> misunderstood you, but that's what I understood.
> >>
> >=20
> > And, if rules are not good, i break them? I disagree with highway code,
> > and i should break it only because i'm not aware?
>=20
>=20
> You are misrepresenting me.  I follow the rules, but they are crappy
> rules so I'm complaining about them.  Rene did not break any rules that
> I am aware of.  (You conveniently did not show me where this "rule" is
> documented, nor why you think port maintenance privilege extends past
> the expire deadline).
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > I'm not protective with my ports, I'm just applying rules. You can be
> > disagree with rules but before breaking them and do what you want, you
> > should talk to portmgr@ to change that.
> >=20
> > And as you seem to have free time to mail on a wrong place debate, you
> > should:
> > 1- mail portmgr@ with your opinion and ask them to change current rules.
> > 2- give a hand on closing PR for freebsd-port-bugs
>=20
>=20
> To iterate: Nobody has broken any rules.  What "rule" did Rene or I
> break?  To whom are you referring?
>=20
> what does #2 have to do with anything?  That is total random.
>=20

It's not random at all. Helping cleaning PR queue is more useful that
debating with me on a problem I don't really care.

> I assume any active portmgr@ will see this thread.  I don't need to
> rehash it, not do I need to start simultaneous issues with them (I have
> one pending already).
>=20

You want to change something, talk to people who can change rules or
take a place on portmgr@

I will close this thread for good: I don't care about this port
deletion. Do what you want, I really really don't care about it.
And at least, i asked something to rene@ not you.


> Hint: If you don't respond, I'll stop responding too.  :)

Are we in a playground now?





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