From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Aug 24 13:05:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06F71089A44 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A32B851FC; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-lj1-f180.google.com (mail-lj1-f180.google.com [209.85.208.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB623269EB; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-lj1-f180.google.com with SMTP id v26-v6so3026862ljj.3; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:05:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DzDR8CkxlAYugPZBVQf2Kl2yd6JjjX0DlVau79gN1SwnjluLiA Ow5cXj1MGvVnOtU13GYQ/r0GBNtDE4um65DGBGE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZaIsPfTAID4Czy/3Y6BQFyJl43amOJmMHFkDx6NePwu4Ii/YXcchTFiOCwd1FbTAu3SqeO37j9sheISZrA+CM= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:658a:: with SMTP id e10-v6mr1244120ljf.99.1535115919413; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:05:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kyle Evans Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:05:07 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: priority of paths to kernel modules? To: johalun0@gmail.com Cc: Matthew Macy , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:05:21 -0000 On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 3:22 AM Johannes Lundberg wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:12 AM Matthew Macy wrote: > > > No we're not. x86 and PPC will be disconnected from the build in a > > subsequent commit during the freeze. Warner was simply too tired to > > communicate this adequately and still meet the timeline that RE wanted. > > > > And take heart. Even if Warner weren't trying to balance the needs of RE > > and the graphics team + user base on post-2013 hardware - the graphics > > doesn't _have_ to support 12.x. it's well within the team's rights to > > simply declare 12.x as unsupported. The team is welcome to simply say we > > support 11.x and 13.x. The failing was largely in that "expected" processes > > are not documented and not well communicated. > > > > Warner is acting in good faith. He's just trying to balance many demands > > in a compressed time period. > > > > Cheers. > > -M > > > > > OK, thanks for the clarification. That's a good compromise I guess. > > Still, regardless of drm, aren't modules in overlay folders suppose to have > higher priority than those in the kernel folder? > (Putting on my loader ballcap) I would like to change this after 12 branches to append by default and allow one to add ${kernel_path} to their module_path to override that, since the status quo has been such for 18 years and some may want to go back to that. I've personally been bitten by it a couple too many times to be happy with the current situation. (Takes off loader ballcap) Thanks, Kyle Evans