From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 27 15:28:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E4416A401 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C280513C494 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0RFSN31048617; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:28:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l0RFSMDp071337; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:28:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l0RFSM7v071336; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:28:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:28:22 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: devnull@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070127152822.GA71323@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <8a20e5000701240903q35b89e14k1ab977df62411784@mail.gmail.com> <20070127141052.GA96039@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <45BB6296.1080106@pingle.org> <200701271304.29216.joao@matik.com.br> <20070127152312.GB1085@zaphod.nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070127152312.GB1085@zaphod.nitro.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: rsmith@xs4all.nl, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, JoaoBR Subject: Re: Loosing spam fight -> devnull@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:28:26 -0000 On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 04:23:13PM +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote.. > On 2007.01.27 13:04:28 -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > > On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:32, Jim Pingle wrote: > > > Roland Smith wrote: > > > > Most spammers do not bother to return if they get a resend request. > > > > That's the whole point of doing this. So practically it doesn't increase > > > > bandwidth consumption. > > > > > ... > > > Greylisting is a decent idea, but it seems to me that it's just another > > > tool in the ongoing arms race against spammers. It may work for a while, > > > but eventually they'll catch on and it will only cause unnecessary delays > > > for legitimate mail. > > > > finally some cares about the users here, that is a really important point, how > > do you justify that your client get the email he is waiting for an hour > > later? Probably he looks then for a better service provider ... > > Could this discussion please be continued on the apropriate list which > is designed for spam - devnull@FreeBSD.org? Or -chat, or wherever, but not on -stable please. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org