From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 6 1:40:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04C837B416 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 01:40:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fA69eUT90122; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 01:40:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" Cc: "Jason Halbert" , , "Forrest Aldrich" Subject: RE: ADSL with Verizon Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 01:40:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000901c166a7$12aec620$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [mailto:culverk@wam.umd.edu] >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:06 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Jason Halbert; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Forrest Aldrich >Subject: RE: ADSL with Verizon > > >> yes - but that difference is only of consequence to the end user (you) >> and the ISP. (the thing on the other end of the DSL line that your >> connected to) It's just ATM packets to the Telco. Don't confuse the >> ISP (the thing on the other end of the DSL circuit to you) with the >> circuit provider. (the Telco) > >If he's with verizon on the east coast of the US, then the ISP and the >circuit provider are the same company. (BTW, if you look at dslreports, >most of the reviews of verizon say it's not that great) > I'm not so sure about that - Verizon has recently begun fracturing itself internally into multiple companies, all operating under the Verizon name. I am getting extremely pissed off at them now - you cannot even call in to Verizon's test and turn up department test on a god damn T1 without being told "we can't tell you anything about that because the ILEC hasn't released it back to us" when the ILEC is Verizon!!! I am positive though that verizon.net (the Verizon ISP) and Verizon.com (the people that own the phone lines and provide the DSL signalling on it) are indeed different companies that are what you call "completely seperate and independent companies that just happen to share the same name" that statement was right out of a Verizon reps mouth. It's enough to drive you insane. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >Ken > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message