From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 15 17:15:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991C0273B9F for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48gQzX4n8pz4T24 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.43.36]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MLA6k-1ivJFH2sxm-00IG5L; Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:15:01 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:15:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: crash on login with mounted home drive Message-Id: <20200315181501.54ef73f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200315170839.18f03dea5fb148251be193f8@sohara.org> References: <20200315170506.96988775.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200315170839.18f03dea5fb148251be193f8@sohara.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:P27gy0J+q1iT9yyUo4EHMy1SKvHuTPUam09cgse3unttgG3dV7W QYXEAX3oRjVRrG2Rfm/ENU5K4dWKDlsgWmxslm5M8AQoFJnARlY4Y8mbG1OAxI9G6oJ0yrh 108XQAYxZWR1x5cC05Pbh9VHdGLIgTgegqhpelQQPeUlBim3YeC4GyNtgXEfdYW+Aq+GYxJ eT4lYNV326/S4hnJx/P1A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:XKijzX3Vahg=:HmpO6vmK/lLqTvuP8NouYx 0A2KkBs0QMA83mltAohy+sTHPuXwDsZMcaO2ptNb5UuwLMa0Yy/2TBdgmraZDu5juhQ9o57wi xziyHAxDhB7TEaanY/dd6ghxsKieW99FfzLf4KrfPTlIfnCNVefyZ5gItMXf308k2B9jMgzMV xVauZX2EM4nMtLGMAPyMv168u73ureO52rIHlRdGWhciT1YZU2Zr9VAjT5Dsv9j0JIq/jFtR0 QYETGSaA0ASzgTKAmOmZC+BhB3T3UuIoTaOr56Ymk064ZiIVUZ5iAeMzi8cfYZaSHotj9M1cV NutUqdeO0YHSOefwmdW3HV3BjKf/xwHq6wrHeSz/WNDwE0laYQ5Wr/ov8jQ+O+eqK8hb//gLG O+QzgPmLEXtzQNSaBfY8rjO9eQ3MYR3e3VeOgQj4bjr5kMoolV+6Z45iWSXcQJBbI2ODNunuV 9Ft1GIi8C6B3lfV2aUDxVCoooNaFfoUyqG4AzffA0rEMdeh3bbVHQkJJaemSxBIsHqrJ3hwgR 2P6eHb912jwcSREz8mNsgqNLYymsu+eCG+faLVqh1smIOmUItBvmwh4UT0PhtzmiHPzXunypc sOu6i8TGK4chWRHLqazBwcs+ae50dg67swF0djgHhRrLOu8VFUpqig0LMo4LP9PF+j5FaDvOf KDjoMYjB/Lv/eitWzNjjyM09lN80UNhtwhnBHpj3PgWTl8nB1gE8Jb39mGqDFSTakVAxMZmjK SMfCCEXcVcOz+pI2QkyZZ/4h830lnP5aD/7uqhn4KimdPVnkBR7aK/EmxNYEXL7BMWBp8jMBC G5A/+Uy3fO36mRQgEtJnjSDbo7kKtcJPq9XfzGWtYnrMs/9KalU2YMe6nQnEgU5UMB0DDO5 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48gQzX4n8pz4T24 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.135) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.70 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[36.43.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.978,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[ip: (0.57), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.13), asn: 8560(2.17), country: DE(-0.02)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:15:06 -0000 On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:08:39 +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:05:06 +0100 > Polytropon wrote: > > > I have _never_ > > used /usr/home, and actually that directory doesn't even > > exist in my installations. > > It used to be common to have /usr was a filesystem but not /home > then /home was usually a symlink to /usr/home. FreeBSD used to install that > way. The default installation always had /usr/home (at least since I've been using FreeBSD). You could empty it and use it as a mount point for a 2nd disk (or a different partition on the system disk), and /home@ -> /usr/home would still work, but I never found this specific constellation reality; usually /home (the root entry) was used to either hold the home directories on the "all in one" system disk, mount a partition also located on the system disk, or a partition on a 2nd disk, or even mount from network. I think I understand this as a historic construct mainly due to smaller disks, that's why "functional partitioning" had been done with physical disks, then with separate partitions on the same disk, but today, the "all in one" approach doesn't really require /usr/home to exist (where /home, as a real directory, not even as a mount point for a 2nd disk) would be sufficient. However, FreeBSD, as all real UNIXes, is full of historc things (core storage, drum memory etc.), so it definitely doesn't hurt. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...