From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 5 18:14:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAB816A404 for ; Fri, 5 May 2006 18:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from zig.murex.com (mail.murex.com [194.98.239.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F4243D45 for ; Fri, 5 May 2006 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from interscan.fr.murex.com (interscan.fr.murex.com [172.21.17.207] (may be forged)) by zig.murex.com with ESMTP id k45IH3l9020621; Fri, 5 May 2006 20:17:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxmail.murex.com (interscan.murex.fr [127.0.0.1]) by interscan.fr.murex.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k45IpZj06778; Fri, 5 May 2006 20:51:35 +0200 Received: from [172.21.130.86] ([172.21.130.86]) by mxmail.murex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 5 May 2006 20:14:03 +0200 From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: Kris Kennaway Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 14:14:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200605041507.08581.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <200605051346.39823.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <20060505175533.GA3384@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20060505175533.GA3384@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605051414.02384.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2006 18:14:04.0221 (UTC) FILETIME=[B12376D0:01C6706F] Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon Subject: Re: X.Org 7.0 port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 18:14:37 -0000 п'ятниця 05 травень 2006 13:55, Kris Kennaway написав: > Sorry, but "I suggest those other people pull their finger out and > work harder on my problems" isn't a viable solution. Kris, I only spoke, when it emerged, that the X11 team is working on porting 7.0, which has no functional improvements over the already ported 6.9. So much so, it was first (rather angrily) suggested to an innocent user, that "no one in their right mind" would work on 7.0... Only then did I lament the sorry state of the X11 *support* -- with most questions sent to x11@ simply unanswered. I did not name Eric until Mark L. explicitly solicited my opinion with his question, that I underlined for you in the previous e-mail. It seems, that *any* answer to Mark's question would leave me open to a misguided "fix it yourself and shut up" attack like yours. Of all people, *you*, who sends ports failure notifications to hundreds of ports maintainers, should know better -- when X-server fails to start or hangs the user's machine, it is the port's failure no different (although harder to fix), than any ported program misbehaving. -mi