From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 2 12:57:47 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09AB5CEDE1 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 12:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnebdal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe34.google.com (mail-vs1-xe34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FBg7t6GJXz4rQw for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 12:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnebdal@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe34.google.com with SMTP id h11so2750433vsl.2 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 05:57:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xsClwKq+TzXuaRAkDAocw646X/lg/Ijd8zRCIRDTzE4=; b=r2e1Is7APFx1K3ENqhEiaxsKbXOneA7ITAdRS/N1ujGBfVU4SOPDmmlIa4zOH0ush7 5maqg0uRykWal0edNWPHww104sPsNUqCg5pRQQGSFR29MkMtprSldAAY5n43dvvT9M0M ZLZ4wIuhbX/8SoX8PDA+nvDo7WqBBNOzhM2uMm2MjA491oOQGrFfjl4jHBcxhhCclndu poNnR9u7ct91aSsu9+VsjBZXvqLxQCUrqDHKDwpLJeY9m1eMLX3cYYmsRejcvNrke5lA 7Z8lwfLFWhnBKqfKUxz3QGg5ZBt6PQLrdoSlCrdZ68tBOaAgSrCRoOdtdNXJS0dyNhIX RJ/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xsClwKq+TzXuaRAkDAocw646X/lg/Ijd8zRCIRDTzE4=; b=uHSIpCJmaYyMgXgZrVDzhzIAU8WuYCuuSFDs8SeIPsslZ5OymH0HfGV8lIo61ShCC5 1/7HkLtAzmDtnP2wenxmthQN/04Hqf67uvYdbZxJD2yZvGa3w914S0nBtS0/7guYfUuf m5KdnUlQl/PfXVl3JbTz5ZYrlQpCoNFU5gyfMKza/7ZdYpFYdIMzZEJM5CYYUDrDWUNa wAIeIfqCTsiBzH0tReOScFga27yIa0NzYf7U+/KZHtmK9bhWmo6vZiBKele+WmU1Ar+W gB0qbFW207u1C9GaqzCPuIafo+74xYW5mFAOAJhOZHBqh7h0VN1Jvjw2QEm1n3kRrghb h0QA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5310gm/H/ElFMYAiUF1yWH/c/xtu9N/cYB+Tl7PS3PzOUw0Q1FMX /HJFek1TTa42ZrSucSjP0Ppmiz0JnGDGXToxB2f7KGsi X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJynhgqtBfKRq09EPxOXvQbxKHNIKy1q1PvuWy4IieHPwCG70scAHEf0UWOHInu5ey52gAnmMIK/vWe3SZTZnUQ= X-Received: by 2002:a67:2d90:: with SMTP id t138mr8272833vst.51.1617368265134; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 05:57:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <39dc07b0-0f53-2213-9ee7-01b752b7dec2@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Nebdal Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:57:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NPAPI (was: java web start / error) To: Graham Perrin Cc: Antonio Olivares , Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FBg7t6GJXz4rQw X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=r2e1Is7A; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dnebdal@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dnebdal@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.96 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.960]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::e34:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::e34:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::e34:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2021 12:57:47 -0000 On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 04:07, Graham Perrin wrote: > > On 05/03/2021 14:01, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > =E2=80=A6 worked well with firefox-esr which I use because the plugins > > are deprecated using the newer firefox. Despite that it also used to > > work with the regular firefox. =E2=80=A6 > > For reference =E2=80=93 I dug up some of what's below in response to a qu= estion > in IRC about : > > Removal of NPAPI plugin support in Firefox 85 > > > Java Plugin is Removed from JDK 8u for Linux, Solaris, and MacOS Platform= s > > > no recent activity, and > related does not respond. > > about Pale Moon. At this point, it may be easier to get hold of an old OS, an old copy of Firefox, and an old Java plugin, install them in a virtual machine, and firewall it so the VM only has access to that one site. Much like VHS, you apparently need to view it on preserved tech of a similar vintage. On the positive side, a setup like that should at least keep working indefinitely, unless they also manage to use HTTPS certificates an old browser can't understand. --=20 Daniel Nebdal