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Date:      Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:46:13 +0100 (CET)
From:      Andrzej Bialecki <abial@webgiro.com>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release/picobsd Makefile src/release/picobsd/build Makefile Makefile.mfs
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.20.9912111429220.86107-100000@mx.webgiro.com>
In-Reply-To: <199912102143.NAA50148@freefall.freebsd.org>

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On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> grog        1999/12/10 13:43:10 PST
> 
>   Added files:
>     release/picobsd      Makefile 
>     release/picobsd/build Makefile Makefile.mfs 

I appreciate your work, and I consider it to be a step in right direction,
but you should've discussed this with either me or Doug White before
committing ( *cough* the word MAINTAINER comes to my mind). The end
result for now is that we have two conflicting methods of building the
floppies, and neither works (you broke the "custom" target when building
with 'build' script, and your "custom" floppy doesn't compile because some
Makefiles have 0 length).

>   Log:
>   Add 'custom' directory with significantly restructured build (now
>   using make instead of custom scripts) and two floppies instead of
>   one.  The resultant floppy can do everything that the individual
>   floppies (dial, net, install, isp, router) could do, modulo some bit

Well, not really. The individual floppies were there for a reason: smaller
memory footprint. While it's becoming of less concern nowadays, there is
still a lot of people with old junky 486 with 8MB SIMM RAM. A general
purpose, one-size-fits-all floppy doesn't work for them.

OTOH, having your "custom" floppy is certainly desirable if you can afford
it.

>   Structure is in place for using the same build for the other
>   directories, but I'm no longer sure we need this.  The current first

See above.

>   floppy will run fine by itself, but the size of a compressed kernel
>   has increased by nearly 50% since 3.2, and there's not much space for
>   anything useful on the remainder of the floppy.  The current method

It depends on what you want to put on mfs. If you consider e.g. the
original "router" floppy, you could do even with 4MB RAM, which is
important for embedded systems.

>   creates a larger mfs and can read as many floppies as the user can

It's a good feature, as I said. We just need to discuss the whole picture.
(BTW, I don't want you to back it out. I want you to fix it :-)


Andrzej Bialecki

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